I want to see Parker kick someone’s head off. That would be awesome.
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Holy frickin’ cow! One punch, something tells me Guy has a background in amatuer boxing. Christian deserved it though, and now Staisia knows she has a man that can protect her if need be.
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! Guy did hit that creeper! Ah, best moment of the comic so far. ^_^
Also, i’m sure Stasia will understand! Guy was just protecting his best (and only?) friend from a creep who hit her! plus, i’m sure she wanted to it just as much as him…
I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*
Also: I am not an U.S. resident so I can’t support you through WOWIO. Is it any other way for me to help or is the only other way ordering one of the books? Thanks in advance for any response.
Pfft. Christian will just get rich selling ironic T-shirts (”I got my a$$ kicked by Stasia’s Maybe-Husband!”) through faux indie shops (I’m looking at you, Hot Topic) and then ghost-write a scandalous tell-all “unauthorized” bio of Guy wherein he implies that the entire incident was a homophobic hate-crime against him.
Must say that i feel sorry for Chris. He got look and money but very little else. I think he is truly most honest person in this comic (mostly because he doesn’t have enough brain to being dishonest).
On page 55, he said been changed, but it is more like game. He got attention span like little kid. He will just abandon his charity center like dull toy, because Stasia like playing more with Guy.
Chris is more fun while living. And with missing tooth Chris surely look like big idiot.
Violence is great! I say, every bogus melvin should have a hot chick knock him to the mud if he stops doing what he said he was doing! Damn straight! And if that bogus melvin gets out of line with the hot chick that knocks him down, then I say Captain Mary-Sue should bust his head like a melon! By God, Violence Rules! I wish I could take down legions and squadroons of bogus dudes, but you know, they keep finding ways and times to hit back. I mean, bogus!
The paparazzi must be kicking themselves to have missed such a perfect story.
For some reason (at least in the uncolored version), Christian in panel 3 reminds me of the Joker (from Batman). Probably how his hair frames his eyes and looks like eye makeup.
Anyhow, it’s dental implant time for Christian. They’ve gotten much better these days.
Now I’m curious how Stasia (and her sister) will react…
*as Bart Simpson* THAT’S THE STUFF, PSYCHO!!! *reverently* And so it begins!!!!!
*shrieks* YES!!!!!!!! *does happy dance*
Michael Buffer: *all disappointed* That Rumble didn’t last for even five seconds…*sigh* Now I have to wait until next years WWE Royal Rumble…*shuffles off*
“I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*”
amen, my sister. a-men. guy is the ultimate prince charming, and I hope S will see that.
I’ve been reading this comic ever since I saw the link on No Pink Ponies and I LOVE IT!!! I don’t know why I hadn’t commented in that long, but whatever. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I love the comic and especially this page. This side of Guy is one of the best yet. Not to say his other qualities aren’t great, but I love guys that stand up for the people they care about. Bobby and Eisu, many gold stars to you!! (Really, who needs Oscars and Grammys when you can have gold stars?) ^_^ Keep up the wonderful work!
“Oh crap, the big one”
Panel one says it all.
It almost made my heart fly out of my chest at Guy’s loyalty.
Almost like “Mess with the chick, and get a little of this!” BAM!
Aha I love his terrified look, that and the way Guy can hold his own.
Doesn’t seem like the kind of councillor I’d know…
We need more councillors like him in the world.
I wonder how many times Guy has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason). Never knew Guy would be the violent type.
Like we didn’t see that coming. It’s like knowing in advance about a huge party you’re throwing and everything is going to be perfect. You look foreward to it, it happens without a hitch; such sweetness.
Now let’s work on daddy!
has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason).
It’s not “for no good reason”, the guy was a jerk who laid off workers who was building a charity building and could care less about it after Stasia have asked the guy to reconsider and not do something like that… I think she had a pretty good reason to jump him as well.
Just a thought. =. Chris seem very weak (physically and mentally), so he may been sheltered all his live. Does he have some health problem? If so. Stasia may don’t like Guy’s violent outburst. :/
On this occasion I have to agree with the blonde guy. Yes this is a social taboo against hitting women but Parker was attacking him and he slapped hwr in self defense to get her off of him and I think in that case his actions were justified. If Parker doesn’t want to get slapped she shouldn’t attack people. Women its a too way street now, if you are allowed to defend yourself from men who attack you men should be able to defend themselves from women who defend them
First time I’ve commented, but I just want to say. Yes, Christian is a jerk. Yes, anyone else would have done the same thing in the moment. No, I don’t think he deserved to be FALCON PAUNCHED Like that. For all of his jerkness he was just walking along when Parker attacked him and all that happened. In the real world I would side with Christian.
But this is a comic, and it does feel oddly satisfying seeing him out cold and missing a tooth. Good job all around.
Grth has a point there, though it doesn’t fit the ‘mood’ most are posting about this particular scene; Christian was defending himself - Parker was on top of him semi-strangling him with his scarf. Slapping her may have been a little over-the-top (he was bigger than her and could have just shaken her off), and Guy’s reaction seemed a little impulsive, seeing his best friend hit.
This scene is definitely a good opening for a little drama between Stasia and Guy, should Stasia interpret this as inappropriate actions on the part of Guy and Parker toward Christian, who *is* a friend/acquaintance of hers she’s known MUCH LONGER than her JUST-FORMED relationship(s) with Guy & parker.
Sorry to rain on this ‘he’s pwned’ parade… but there’s still a little reality checking to be made here.
All in all, this is a wonderful story, and I look forward to see where this goes from here.
I’m with Danek, I can see why Guy hit Christian (and honestly, I think that there are some self centered ego maniacle people who deserve to be hit) but I don’t think this is insta-pwned.
Being as we were all kind of standing there, watching what happened, I don’t know if I’d be more… stunned that this otherwise very level headed man just one hit KOed a star or if I’d snicker behind Christian’s back at the absurdity that he went down in one hit at all…
I don’t feel the righteous fury of Guy hitting Christian, like, it just didn’t ring with me. I know why he did it - and I know that if it were me, and my best friend, Justin would have done the same. But I don’t know that I would auto-swoon if I were Stacia, is all.
She’s the only person, for me, that I can’t very well guess what she might do. Parker is always going to be crazy, Guy is always going to be Loyal, and Christian’s always going to be a raging dumb #*%&.
As a counter point though for Stacia and Christian - I don’t think they were ever friends. I think they dated, but I don’t think they ever liked each other, let alone loved. I think the emotions Stacia felt at the beginning of the comic, were more along the ropes of being fired from a job you hate. You’re glad to be gone, but it would have been nice to be the one to do the dumping.
This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.
Wow. Parker takes it upon herself to mete out justice to Christian, so Christian deserves to get punched in the face by Guy? None of this is realistic in any way- that Parker would get openly violent in a situation that she barely knows about, Guy the good student counselor resorts to punching immediately (wonder what he tells his students?)…
I don’t have a problem with you writing a character that would hit a girl, even though a man hitting a woman IRL is wrong (yes, Grth, clearly Parker deserved to get hit by a man much bigger and heavier than her. No strength difference there at all /sarcasm>). What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional. It’s no fun to read.
And please save your breath with “but it’s just a romantic comedy! you’re not supposed to take it so seriously!” If you and Eisu invest time writing and drawing a comic, my assumption is that you want people to take it seriously, not just write comments about duuuuude cool violence!!1
I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before, but at least you’ll read this before you mod it out. Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.
Can’t wait for another update! Gotta be patient though. Thanks for the wonderful story and artwork.
On a side note, I remember reading that this story was only supposed to go about 80 pages. To me, the devlopment seems only halfway, two thirds at the most. I think finishing the story in just 20 pages would probably rush it a bit. Please don’t feel bound to finishing at 80 at the expense of the story!
Of course, I’m not the one writing :P, so do as you wish
“I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before”
This is obviously a 100% lie. The only reasons I’ve ever banned people is for LYING (like you just did, but I’m not even banning you yet) and for wasting everyone’s time by criticizing ME PERSONALLY INSTEAD OF THE COMIC (like you also just did!).
“Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.”
You’ve obviously either been banned previously or know someone who has and you’re extremely bitter about it. THE COMMENTS FOR “MARRY ME” INCLUDE MORE CRITICISM THAN ANY OTHER COMMENTS PAGE OR FORUMS FOR ANY OTHER COMIC IN HISTORY WITH A SIMILAR SIZED AUDIENCE, OTHER THAN MAYBE “LAST BLOOD,” ANOTHER COMIC OF MINE. That is a fact. Try to somehow disprove it. I allow everyone to say whatever they want as long as they’re not flat out lying or just bashing me personally, and I allow some people, like you just now, to even do both of those things for a while until it gets too disgusting and they need to get banned. Almost every other comic writer would delete 90% of the bad comments that I allow to go through. I’ve said this so many times before, so annoying.
None of your complaints made any sense whatsoever. What’s unrealistic about a psycho crazed fan (Parker) attacking a guy who just seriously pissed off the girl she loves, belittled herself and her friend by referring to them as the little one and the big one and assuming that the only reason Stasia would know them is if their dying wish was to meet her, ended his charity and fired all those people, and obviously has a history with Stasia that she knows about and knows how it ended badly before already? She also hated the horrible movie he just starred in, which is reason enough to kill him! And how could it possibly be unrealistic for a guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by someone twice her size???
“What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional.”
Uh, your main complaint about the comic was that the characters, in your opinion, WEREN’T one-dimensional, but you thought their “second” dimension, being capable of violence, was unrealistic. If Guy was one-dimensional, he’d never stop reading and being boring and he certainly wouldn’t falcon punch a movie star.
You are a decent person but you just don’t get it. “Marry Me” is not really a graphic novel or even a story in the usual sense; instead, ‘Marry Me’ is a commercial venture, a cruise missile aimed at the hormones of American women as a shortcut to their pocketbooks. If women think they have a right to knock men down, then a writer can make money by heroizing women who knock men down; if women think that they should have big blonde boyfriends to beat the teeth of out of men who don’t like being knocked down, then a writer can make money by inventing such big blonde boyfriends, whether the characters or the story make sense or not. The point is to make money by offering women exactly what they want. If American women wake up one morning and decide they like men who paint their toenails, you can bet that Guy will start painting his toenails the next day; and you can bet this board will be full of messages from women begging for the chance to buy posters of Guy painting his toenails. Instead of complaining, En, you should give credit where credit is due, because that’s the way business works.
By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.
In my opinion, Christian was somewhat justified, in backhanding Parker. Just because she’s smaller doesn’t remove her ability to kill him, especially with the help of the shirt to strangle him. It’s quite possible that he was reacting through instinct. I mean seriously, if someone you don’t really know is strangling you, you don’t think of the correct way to get them off, you go with the first thing that comes to mind to get them off, because you would be panicking. You would not be debating about if it was justified, or how it goes against chivalry, you’d be more worried about keeping your life. Given…he is still a jerk to begin with.
No, Guy’s punch isn’t fully justified either, but people are not rational, and given the right situation, they will respond with emotions rather than thinking about how fair it is. And that’s what happened here. Guy’s love (friendship) for Parker and wanting her not to be hurt outweighed the rational thoughts of justification.
Anyway, I laughed, and indeed it is a Falcon Punch.
>>By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Bobby, I have posted exactly two messages on this board since the day I was born, and both of them are on the board right now; and I promise you this is the only screen name I have ever used here. If you really imagine that I am En or that I could be En, then your intuition for personality and writing styles is pretty weak. All I am is a man who grew up under the fists of a battering stepmother and who married a battering wife, and the only thing I hate here is the dogma which says that women can attack men because women are ’smaller.’
Bobby, I know you need to make a living and I respect that; but I really feel like some truth needs to be said here. Violence is violence even if a ’smaller’ and ’sensitive’ woman is the one who starts it; and if your female readers think that ’smaller’ and ‘more sensitive’ people should have a license to attack ‘larger’ and ‘less sensitive’ people, then why not ask those same women how much they would like being hit and knocked down by their sons and daughters. Should your children stand on a scale every year on their birthdays to see if they are smaller than their mothers or not? And, should your children have a license to inflict domestic violence on their mothers until they stop being smaller than their mothers? Does being ‘bigger’ mean you have no right to the dignity of your own body?
Violence Rules: You’re reading WAY too much into this and you’re misunderstanding me if you think I’m somehow saying what you apparently think I’m saying. I agree with you completely — please tell me where I’ve said otherwise or where the comic has in any way said otherwise.
PARKER ATTACKED CHRISTIAN, CHRISTIAN PUNCHED HER, GUY DEFENDED HIS FRIEND, NO MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, BECAUSE SHE’S HIS FRIEND AND CHRISTIAN’S AN ASSHOLE AND CHRISTIAN IS TWICE HER SIZE AND IF THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT HE’S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HELP PARKER OUT.
Please tell me how that promotes anything about how women should be allowed to beat men. It doesn’t in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY to anyone with a brain.
Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever. If Guy pushed him down and tried to choke him, he’d possibly succeed and kill him, but Parker was way too small/weak to do any damage that way. Christian can shrug her off like a bug.
Doesn’t change the fact that even when someone you don’t know starts to strangle you, you don’t respond kindly, even if they are smaller then you and of the opposite gender.
“Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever.”
The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull. If he doesn’t respond in some sort of way, he could have ended up dying, or most likely passing out. But the mind never thinks rationally when in a panic.
I agree with everything but the twice her size statement. With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.
“The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.”
Totally wrong. All he has to do is spin around and throw her off him and then untie the shirt himself.
“With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.”
The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size. You’re somehow not realizing that he can just stand up and toss her aside. His arms and legs are completely free — that’s how he was able to punch her, remember? She was sitting on his back, but she’s not nearly heavy enough or strong enough for that to keep him down.
Sorry for kicking in when the discussion has moved to entirely different topics, but anyway:
Actually I found it refreshing not to see any Wham! Blam! Punch! stuff. To me, such punchlines (pardon the pun) are just stating the obvious.
Re the violence discussion: I think Parker simply never managed to hurt anybody, so attacking somebody physically is no big deal for her.
She must be used to being slapped though, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to shrug that slap off so easily.
For the benefit of doubt, I’ll accept Violence’s explanation that he’s subject to female violence.
However, that doesn’t make the comic bad. Any art will, for some individuals, trigger bad memories. Either you deal with the memories or you go look at something else, but it’s *not the fault of the artist*.
Oh SIGH. I’ve made this comment before, but the board ate it.
Parker could NOT strangle Christian like that. You can’t cut off someone’s air with an open loop, not unless you actually put your knee in his neck and then pull with all your might.
If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.
“This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.”
Frankly, that’s silly.
You know how Google works, right? Well, if you search on “Eisu” and “artist” you get over 4500 hits, one of which is Eisu’s DeviantArt page. IOW, Eisu’s artwork is all over the ‘Net; there is no reason to come to a webcomic you despise just to see it.
And even if you did have to come here, you could always, y’know, look at the pictures and NOT READ THE DIALOGUE.
How AWESOME is it that we get such an “early” update? It was great, as it contributed to the “flow” of the story, made it more violent if you get what I mean. Which you probably don’t, since I sucked at explaining myself.
Whatever.
I understand what’s being said about Parker. But she IS a bit crazy, and that’s precisely why we like her. and Guy being so protective is kind of nice, he is not consciously choosing violence, but reacting to seeing his friend in danger.
I am still very much in love with this cute geek.
and with Marry Me, of course.
“If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.”
This is what I said and I quote “All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.” Sounds to me like closing the loop.
“The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size.”
And I don’t think the shirt was being used as a shirt at the time, so that would make it a tool for another purpose that it wasn’t meant for. Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by “if it went on” was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him. Had it gone on longer, Christian might have done something worse than what he did.
Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place. When he is being strangled, he doesn’t pay attention to the size of the person, or how tight it is against his neck, first thing he’ll notice is that there is something pulling against his neck. Now, I don’t know about you, but in that case, I wouldn’t take kindly to someone trying to strangle me out of the blue, and probably, I’d be panicking at the time to get them off. So Christian, panicking and acting out in instinct, gets her off of him by “back-handing” her. No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.
Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him. I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason, he might be more inclined not care about her safety over his.
Sorry for dragging this argument/debate on. I still love this comic for what it is, it’s just the way your saying “She’s smaller” it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions. Anyway, good luck.
“This is what I said and I quote ‘All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.’ Sounds to me like closing the loop.”
But did you miss the part where Parker never did that???
“Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by ‘if it went on’ was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him.”
Very confused. Why would any possible scenario matter involving Christian not fighting back? Obviously he’s not going to let her murder him (and she wouldn’t actually kill him anyway), but, as I’ve said a million times, there was no need to punch her in the face when he could have just plain STOOD UP and shook her off, or at worst he could just push her off him. He didn’t need to punch her. OBVIOUSLY everyone agrees that he shouldn’t have let her KILL HIM, JEEZ.
“Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place.”
That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.
“No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.”
My intention was for it to be a closed fist punch. The final art made it look more like a slap, but who gives a shit — it’s a back handed hit where his knuckles make contact with her face and resulted in a bruise on her cheek, as you can see some of on Panel 5 of this page. That’s a punch to me and it’s incredibly stupid for you to argue that point and try to correct me about what happened in the comic that I wrote. It’s also posible that the contact with her face made his fist open up. We’re only seeing his hand AFTER making contact, not before or during contact.
“Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him.”
Stop repeating the same nonsense. She clearly does not have the ability to kill him or even cause any significant injury to him in the manner that she’s attempting it. Again, if she had a gun or a knife, she could kill him. Definitely can’t do it with that shirt unless she drugged him first or gained 300 pounds (but even then she probably couldn’t kill him unless one or both of his arms were also tied behind his back or trapped under her bulk in some way). This nonsense reminds me of people actually saying that Parker was guilty of ATTEMPTED RAPE for what she said on Page 36. Such insane stupidity.
“I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason”
Again, it’s your opinion that he was attacked for no reason and I think it’s a very stupid opinion. I think she has about 10 great reasons to attack him, the most important one being how heartless he just was in regards to the livelihoods of dozens of Kenyans, people who grow up with a life expectancy in the 40s, with further implications that will deny much needed help to thousands more Kenyans. He fires these workers, shortly after hiring them, by no fault of their own, and he ends a charity that could have done a lot of good. Stasia’s super rich, but not even Oprah can fix the lives of everyone in the world, nor could 1,000 Oprahs or 1,000 Stasias. They need as much help as they can get, and Stasia commits her money to many different causes, cancer research being #1. Also, as I’ve said before, Parker possibly saved Christian’s life by attacking him. Those workers sure didn’t look pleased, but Parker defused their possible attack on him by doing her own before they could reach him.
“it’s just the way your saying ‘She’s smaller’ it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions.”
I’ve never said that or insinuated that in any conceivable way whatsoever and I’m getting sick of morons like you saying I did. Anyone who says anything like that again will be banned.
Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons). You keep saying that her size doesn’t remove her ability to kill him with the shirt — YES, IT DOES! Try using your brain and actually reading the comic and seeing that she clearly could not hurt him because she’s too small/weak and he was easily able to punch her aside. And not a single person has in any way said that Christian shouldn’t have responded. OBVIOUSLY HE’S NOT GOING TO LET HER KILL HIM, but punching her was unnecessary and went too far. If he just pushed her aside, Guy wouldn’t have punched him obviously, but instead would have ran up and pushed him back to separate them and told him to get the fuck out.
couple things to say:
1: Way to go Guy!
2: “NOT THE FACE” most awesome line EVER!
3: third panel: Love the missing tooth
4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2
great job on the page in general and the whole book thus far. it’s awsome
Heh…well, at this point I guess I mad a fool of myself, huh?
I’ll give up on the “Smaller size” topic, because clearly I lost there, and I apologize for the trouble I’ve caused you. Really…my bad.
By “Parker having the right to attack him”, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now, and hopefully I won’t be attacked for this, she’s taking action while others who do have more right to do so won’t. I guess it’s possibly also for the insults he used.
That’s about it, otherwise, I’m done. I’m very sorry for my stupidity and lack of paying attention to details…and arguing with the writer, who obviously knows more than I do about a characters’ traits and strengths (this is note sarcasm). Again, I love this comic, and I’m sorry I cause you a hard time as well as frustration. Good Luck.
“By ‘Parker having the right to attack him’, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now”
Why do you keep saying this nonsense??? Of course he did things to Parker herself and you’re making me repeat them AGAIN, ugh, and no, you’re still not using your brain. Did you miss the part where Christian openly acted like the only reason Parker and her best friend should ever be seen by Stasia is if they’re dying of something and this is their dying wish that she’s granting? Christian also was clearly told their names but then decided to refer to Parker and Guy as the big one and the little one because he felt they were too inferior to him to even be called by their names. He might as well have just spit in their faces. Read old comments of mine for MANY more reasons why Parker attacked him. The list goes on and on, really, but you continue to ignore all of them.
“Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons).”
Ok, I just want to state that she DID have the ability to kill him. Now that, that was stated, I would also like to say, the WAY she was trying to kill him, had a 0% chance succeding.
Still, she didn’t need any weapons to kill him. I wrestle in school, I went agaisnt my budy who is litterally twice my size. (He’s 300lbs, I’m 160). I had him tapping out in 30 seconds.
Obviously Parker had to ability to take him to the ground, all she had to do was elbow him in the soft spot on the back of his head if she wanted to actually kill him.
Now before we get into personality, I just wanted to make a point that size, and lack of weapon, while they played a roll, were not the main reason we are not at a Christian funeral right now.
I believe, (My opinion) that the reasons she didn’t kill him, are method (A palm thrust to the nose would have been fine) and Desire. (She didn’t ACTUALLY want to kill him.) She only wanted to hurt an asshole, a feeling we all get, I’m sure, everyday.
There, now that I’ve stated my personal opinion, I will now dive into a pool to avoid flames.
Also, even if Christian hadn’t done anything personally to Parker I think he deserves an attack from anyone in the area for firing those workers and ending his charity for the reason he did, which was pretty disgusting to me. And the reason I’ve been so harsh with you — this being said to the people who will whine about our exchange and say that I’ve been a horrible asshole yet again to a fan — is because you say either false things or opinion based things in such absolutes like “he did not punch her” and “she doesn’t [have the right to attack him]” and so on, which is pretty annoying to me, along with making me (and others) repeat things many times, like about how Parker clearly couldn’t kill him in that situation. Anyway, glad to see that you’re not one of those people who gets super pissed off and sensitive about such things.
I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence? Especially since he was walking away and in no way threaten anybody. Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.
I’m not gonna weep over Christian’s fate ind you, and I found it highly amusing. But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.
If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day ;P
Speaking as a lawyer, Nairobi is an English common law jurisdiction, so has a shares a similar legal tradition with America. Parker commited assault and battery upon Christian, and Christian was well justified to use reasonable force in self-defense. Since Parker’s attack was unprivileged, Guy’s attack is also unprivileged and is also liable in assault and battery. Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time. I’d have to imagine the potential cost ramifications of Christian’s tooth would easily bankrupt Guy if he chose to pursue legal recourse.
Well, It’s probably true that I was very annoying…and no, I don’t get super pissed or sensitive, and most of the time I’ll admit I’m wrong and apologize for it. But I might feel a bit better about this situation without the insults. But then again, since I was stating my false opinions, and taking the comic as absolute, like you said, I guess that would be an insult to you and your comic/story
But now, at least I can look back on this and laugh at my stupidity. Next time I’ll make sure I have all possible info before I argue again. No hard feelings?
to the one who has been beaten by his mother: i am sorry to hear that and it really sucks , may it be father or brother or mother or sister its never fun to be beaten up by some1 of his own family when your growing up
to the same guy who married a girl who beats him up: you kinda had it for you there man…
onto my coment about this comic now
but anyways , ive also had a problem once with one of my formers girlfriend
thats how it went: one day we got into this argument and her already explosive temper exploded and she srated attacking me ,couples of punch there and couples kicks here nothing to be worry about ( she was 5 ft 100lbs max and i go 5”10 and 200….) but the simple fact of being hit repeatedly aint that fun you know?
so after 30-45 seconds i was very tired of bloking and getting her blows so i punched her somewhat hard sqare in her chest , choking tyhe air out of her for a sec or two and instantly stopping her attack on me
while i do not ammend the fact of hitting a woman since i kinda consider myself a gentleman of some sort i have to admit in the past ive had problems that wouldnt be solved by speaking ( them attacking me) but only in reality checking punches so i totaly agree with the fact that christian punched ”the litle one” to free himself , i personally would have mostly done the same
but i personaly have a 1st degree blackbelt in judo that i l;earned mostly to protect my friends and girlfriend in moments they would need it
yes when we look at the situation from a neutral point of view parker was going overboard, you have to see it
BUT parker is the friend of guy
a friend which is a girl on top of that
a friend which is a girl that got punched by a man of average male size while she is of average female size too
its like adding the little cherry on all the creamy topping
now you violence haters of all kind tell me this, would you really not have helped you friend parker?
i sure know i would have , its only normal
but would you really have standed there to get choked/pummeled by a girl even if your twice her size?
i know i would have got my way trough her to get free
personally i hate christian and i love guy , which denotes that the writer of this comic bobby crosby ( who is very nice to speak to if you dare try instead of bashing him here )is doing a wonderfull job in fleshing the characters the way they should be
i personally didnt discover any new factes i didnt knew parker had , but i persnally am thrilled by guy jumping to save her friend . evenn if shes clearly guilty and not staying there and yelling at them to stop like so many protagonists have done lately in romance flicks
so to sum it up
being beaten down by gurls is bad
hitting gurls is bad exept when you must defend yourself against ONGOING assaults
protecting weaker than ourselves friends no matter what is pretty good
congrats to bobby in doing such a great work with the characters of this comic
and i hope you dont get your hopes down on the readers of this comic becauz of such *arhem* bobby , they just really need love
or to be beaten some sense in by their wives
your guess xD
“I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence?”
Since the beginning of time maybe? This is Earth you’re living on. And it’s more than just being a massive jerk when you hire poor people to do a job and then fire them almost instantly after that for no reason and also end a charity that could have saved lives.
“Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.”
Of course it was self defense. No one’s arguing that! It was slightly excessive self defense, in my opinion, but I do NOT HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIAN PUNCHING PARKER. But I also have absolutely zero problem with Guy punching Christian after Christian punched Parker, because at that point Guy is essentially OBLIGATED to do so. Parker is now in a FIGHT with a guy twice her size and if Guy doesn’t come in and back her up he’s being a horrible friend and a coward, no matter if her attack on Christian was justified or not.
“But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.”
I think only total morons would think Guy punched Christian for a weak reason. Parker’s reasoning was debatable, but in my opinion she was perfectly justified in doing so. Either way, Parker’s already been established as a psycho fan.
“If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day”
If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.
“Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time.”
LOL. Every single witness absolutely despises Christian and if anything he’d be the one serving jail time for punching Parker. Also, Stasia is one of the most beloved people in Nairobi and all of Kenya for the tens of millions she donates to charity there and for the personal work she does to help their people. Any possible court case would go however she wants it to go.
I don’t think there’s gonna be legal ramifications to what happened, even though in real life Guy would be pretty much doomed since people like Chistian have excellent lawyers.
It’s just not the focus of the story.
I don’t think it’s even possible to legally go to Africa the way they did in the comic. Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?
It’s just a very fun and engaging cartoon, with great chemistry between the two leads. The story works very well the way it’s writen, and it’s at least as realistic as anything Hollywood releases in an average year
“If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.”
If my much smaller friend picks a fight with a guy twice her size, wrestles him to the ground and starts strangling him with a dirty rag, she’s welcome to the consequences of her actions. As long as the guy isn’t using excessive force.
And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried
Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you. I really feel welcome now.
“Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?”
At least a dozen people have been banned in the disgusting arguments about that topic. I forget which pages to refer you to — somewhere in the 40s mostly. Or just google “marrymemovie” and “passport.”
“Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you.”
Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.
“And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried”
It doesn’t matter, but I’m quite confused by that. He’s a big guy and almost certainly works out. Most movie stars, especially young ones like him, are in great shape, and he’s also incredibly stupid and clearly doesn’t really understand how the world works, and just maybe he’d start beating the crap out of Parker if Guy didn’t jump in and help.
I think how it is interesting how one comic can prompt such ideas and debates. It takes a talented person to create situations that can stir such emotions. A talented writer can almost make the reader dispise any character that they wish. A talented writer can create situations that give a feeling of justification for the reader.
I personally enjoyed seeing Christian getting pounced, I also enjoyed a friend protecting another. No matter what opinions we may have about this comic I believe that some of the readers (including myself) can agree that this comic is fulfilling it’s purpose: to entertain. I enjoy this comic and I look forward to more updates.
Geez, even if Guy’s action is not justified, it’s just what anyone loving and eventually hotblooded will do if your best friend ist knocked down, even if it was just for some reason to do that. So cut it out and read the comic as a comic or leave it be. That’s not “real life” or “how to teach my child the proper actions in any difficult situations of life”
I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly. Could he have bucked the much smaller Parker off or somesuch if he tried? Probably. However, people need to consider that if Parker actually was succeeding in choking him in any way, whether by airway constriction or a half-assed blood choke, the logical part of Christian’s brain was shutting down very, very rapidly and subsiding to panic. The human mind is DESIGNED to react this way, and he may not have done the same thing had she been, say, pulling his hair, when his logical problem-solving would had remained intact. And, in fairness, he’s not all that bright to start.
Guy’s reaction, I’m neutral on (though I’ll admit I lean more towards “go Guy!” than not. ;)). It’s awesome that he’s willing to defend his friend and is so chivalrous, but Christian wasn’t entirely justified. Of course, maybe he didn’t expect the poor bastard to have such a glass jaw.
ViolenceRules: I’m sorry about your personal history, and thank you for sharing it. I didn’t mean in my previous comment that women, being generally smaller, have the right to be abusive and violent. I don’t think Parker was right to attack him at all. (I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.) My point was that Christian, being larger, should have been able to know how to get her off without using that level of force.
My problems were with poorly written characters, period. Parker’s shown to be insane? We already know this. Christian’s shown to be an idiot? Same. Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.
Why, yes, I have been banned from here before, thank you for asking. Bitter? Not so much. I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally), but it’s not that critical. Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).
“I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly.”
Just want to say again that I agree with this description and have never said otherwise. I also want to repeat that I don’t think the justification level of Christian’s punch matters in any way for Guy’s response. I think Guy’s perfectly justified in punching Christian even if Christian was perfectly justified in punching Parker. Sometimes things just have to happen that way, no matter how they were started. Didn’t World War I happen because all these countries had treaties with other countries where they HAD to come to their aid if they got into a war, so almost the whole world ended up fighting just because some moron’s son was killed? Sort of a similar thing here, except luckily no one died in this skirmish.
Great comic, honestly. I’d definitely be happy to see this on the big screen at some point in time (as long as the acting isn’t just plain awful).
I’m just wondering, after Christian hits Parker, how does he get into a semi-upright position before Guy gets up to him so that he can get punched to the ground? I thought he was still on the ground when he hit Parker.
If you saw your friend get hit by a guy you know for a fact is a pompous jerk, I’m pretty sure most people would react immediately with some sort of violent type action, or at least a “Get the **** away from my friend” response. It doesn’t really matter whether it was the “smart” thing to do or not. Not trying to say I disagree at all with Guy’s reasons, since I think he had perfectly good reasons for what he did and honestly, I’d have done the same thing in his position.
Parker does make some very amusing situations, doesn’t she?
“I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.”
#1, on Earth people get assaulted and killed all the time for just being a douche. #2, what he did was a lot worse than just being a douche, as I’ve explained 3,000 times already on this page alone. If you can’t understand that, and I know you can’t, since you can’t understand ANYTHING AT ALL and you prove this with everything you say, then that’s too bad.
“Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.”
How the fuck is it out of character for a nice guy to defend his friend??? It’s extremely in character. Also, the “out of character” complaint is almost always incredibly wrong and incredibly stupid and that’s certainly the case here. First of all, we don’t know a whole lot about about Guy yet, so it’s basically impossible to say that something he does is out of character. Also, people in real life act “out of character” CONSTANTLY. How many times have you said “I can’t believe I did that” or “I can’t believe he did that” or “I can’t believe you did that — that doesn’t sound like you at all!”? It happens all the time. When people act “out of character” is when they’re most revealing of their true character. But it makes no sense on any level whatsoever to say that Guy’s punch was out of character. Please try to explain to me how it’s conceivably stupid for Guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by a guy twice her size. Do it in an e-mail, though, since you’re obviously banned yet again for being a lying asshole.
“I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally)”
You definitely did at least one of those things and probably both. My e-mail history doesn’t go back that far, so I can’t see the deleted comments, but I’m 99.9% sure that you made at least one comment after the only one that I can find and I’m quite sure it contained more lies and personal insults. You already insinuated that you made at least one comment that didn’t go up. ANYWAY, here’s the comment that I did find –
First you confused me with Eisu, then you said that I’m condescending to Parker and that I only used a lesbian in the story to distract from the main plotline. You also said a bunch of stupid shit that made no sense. See my response –
My guess is you made one more comment after that and it was so annoying and filled with more personal shit about me that I deleted it and banned you.
“Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).”
In almost all cases I only insult people after they’ve already insulted me, and those people, like you, are very rarely fans of the comic. I do like, though, how you use the excuse of “I like to look at the pretty pictures” for the reason why you continue to read every page of a comic you hate so much and have been banned from the comments of. And in the other cases where I insult people it’s usually a general thing like “Only morons would think Guy was stupid to defend his friend in a fight,” which is just a fact. Anyone who disagrees with that should kill themselves for being so insanely fucking stupid.
I’ve never seen so many posts made by Bobby…
People, this is not a hard fucking concept.
As Bobby has clearly said, and if you spent more than three seconds thinking about it:
Parker attacked Christian for pissing off Stasia. Parker tries to choke him with a shirt. Christian hits Parker in self-defense, however he over-does it (or this is at least how it is supposed to come off). Guy steps in for Parker to defend her, not caring whether she’s in the right or wrong, but rather sticking up for his friend.
Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.
Bobby feels that it’s okay to attack people who say mean things to you. This might be messed up logic, but he’s the writer so deal with it. Besides, it’s not like anyone is out of character.
1. Parker is insane, we know this
2. Christian is an ass, we know this
3. Guy is loyal to friends, we know this
They all show these traits in new ways (Pounching, bitch punching, and falcon punching), but they’re still the same traits on the same people.
Bobby Crosby writes: Didn’t World War I happen … because some moron’s son was killed?
Sorry to nitpick, but moron seems unfair. Reactionary fool might be appropriate, but moron is perhaps better suited to serious inbreds, like Carlos II of Spain, whose mother was also his aunt and grandmother. But even that is unfair since it was not his fault. But he was sterile (as well as physically and mentally disabled), and his passing kicked off the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). That was a world war that also realigned global power and left at least several hundreds of thousands of people dead.
As for Franz Ferdinand, he was not expected to become the heir. Many people had to die before his murder to set up the situation. (Real life stories often seem less believable than fiction. =)
But what does this have to do with the comic, you ask? Ah, because the real cause was a bad marriage and a meddling father!
Archduke Rudolf, Ferdinand’s cousin and heir to the empire, had an unhappy marriage. So, Rudolf got himself a mistress, of whom his father did not approve. So unstable Rudolf went and killed his mistress and himself. Since Rudolf was only heir of his father, the throne went to the king’s brothers. Since the middle brother, Archduke Maximillian, got himself killed two decades earlier while playing emperor in the foreign land of Mexico, that left Archduke Charles Louis as heir. And Charles deferred in favor of his eldest son, Franz Ferdinand.
If Ferdinand’s meddling Uncle (Emperor Franz Joseph) had consented fully to Ferdinand’s wedding (and not hoped for inbreeding instead), Ferdinand and his wife Sophie probably would not have been in Sarajevo and someone else would have gotten killed instead, delaying the war until some other incident started it.
The US NY Times article announcing Charles Louis’ death is actually rather amusing, by the way:
>>That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Really? Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked, won’t that mean that three hundred million Americans are due to get hit any time now?
Bobby, you have proven what I said. You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way, unless you intend Christian to be a schizophrenic or a drug addict, or both. No real person would actually imagine that a straight woman — a woman whom he knows to be straight — is as likely to marry a woman as a man. No real person is likely to distinguish between a man and a woman by calling them ‘the big one’ and ‘the little one.’ What, is Christian the only person in this nation who cannot see a person’s gender? Or, is Christian the only person in this nation who considers height a more important distinguishing characteristic than gender? No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible. And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish? And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl? And, if Christian wants the love of this rich girl so much, why does he walk away from his project in such a casual manner? Is he stoned?
The answers are all obvious. Christian is not in any way, shape, or form a real person, and he does not resemble a real person. You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men. This board is already full of messages from women who are glad to see you affirm this ‘basic right.’ Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.
I tried to post this three times, and it would not go through. The error signal says “Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress, ” so it does not look like this message will go through. Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.
“Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.”
in truth, you don’t need a closed loop to strangle someone to death, you only need a closed loop to strangle yourself. If you, and I don’t care how small you may be, are kneeling on top of someone’s back with a rope, a scarf, or anything else long enough around the front of their neck, you can kill them.
now despite what I just said, I will agree that her chances of killing him from that position are slim to less than none. In order to actually kill him, she could place her knee at his spine, wrap the scarf around her hands, and then pull REALLY hard.
on a side note, what I meant by the whole ‘good thing Stasia didn’t see’ was she probably couldn’t see his face since she was behind him.
also, sorry if this makes me sound like a total goob but what is the whole ‘falcon punch’ reference about?
Bobby, taking time to appease or justify yourself to the vast minority of the dissenters out there that hate your *in-progress* work of Marry Me is only going to be a 100% a waste of time. Leave the detail wrangling to us supporter fanboys/gals.
There’s no need wasting your energy on those attention-grabbing mental/emotional vampires and set it towards continuing your work. Saves on headaches and bad mood days too, if I remember correctly. ;2)
Anyways, my 2 cents say this comic is a good read thus far, and I can’t make any final personal judgments until the story is done.
Why does everyone keep saying that parker was strangling christian? Since when is pulling back on a shirt the same thing as strangling? Sounds like people are just pulling arguments out of their ass for the sake of arguing.
Have someone pull back on a shirt that is around your neck, and keep a hand on the shirt(just like Christian), and you will be able to breathe just fine. Also make sure that you are about 200 pounds, and whoever is ontop of you is 110(at the most). All you will have to do to get up is roll over, not smack the person in the face.
Her violence was justified, so stop trying to pull these stupid arguments out of nowhere. Jeez.
You know what, I’m going to make a complaint about the comments.
I have always taken the comments as being a place to offer constructive critisisms. I’ve read back and seen that someone told me not to read so much into it - but speaking from a writer’s standpoint (it’s what I do for a living - I work for a Newspaper) I would want nicely worded critisism if I thought it would help the integrity of the story.
My problem is this. I would never. EVER. Attack Bobby.
I think he’s come up with a delightful, unusual premise for a story. Yes, I’m having trouble swallowing Parker attacking Christian - but as I said back in one of my comments, Parker has *always* been over the top and as I said last page, my personal feelings on the subject aside - I think she acted in character.
I’m not (trying to be) overly critical, I’m trying to voice my opinions to Bobby, in the hopes that if he really does get a shot to make it to the movies, that he has a chance to review some of the Constructive comments to make the movie as successful as he could ever want it to be. It’s been my experience that having an outsider’s view can only help sometimes.
That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at. Considering a sample of people who respond (based on marketing results from retail stores) most people don’t complain when they have a problem with something, they simply never come back. So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.
I don’t want you to lose readers. Thus far, I’ve really liked this story. I’m a hopeless romantic, so my heart is beating to see more interaction between Guy and Stacia - but really that’s just me totally loving all aspects of Romance all the time. (Guess what I write as a hobby )
Honestly, though, I’m disgusted with some of the critics here. If you’re not trying to be helpful, get out. There’s no reason to be mean.
wow this page is really good and we see more of Guys’ character. Not every guy will punch another guy out. Plus this is the first time Guy has been seen looking so absolutely pissed. Then sseing Parker’s comment makes me think that Guy does have a temper at times. and probably defended her a few other previous times with the same result.
haha, I just read the bit where someone was complaining cos a COMIC wasn’t realistic…mwhahaa… have they ever heard of batman..? awesome page btw, that Christian sure got what was coming to him.
Annnnd if a man hits a woman it is soo normal for another man or woman to then knock him to the ground and pound on him a little bit. Its just how it goes and anyone who has said or thinks otherwise has clearly been living on the moon in a small moon hut with no tv or radio for the last billion years!
This comic rocks and people who dont like it should just not read it, i don’t get why they bother commenting at all…I love reading all the funny comments that people put while I’m waiting for new updates and all you complainers just ruin my frickin day.
peace.
I personally feel that Parker wasn’t justified in attacking Christian. I don’t agree with your reasonings to why she did it. I feel her reasons were wrong. It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.
It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended. And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.
The comments are even more entertaining than the comic
I really don’t understand why you get so upset about some comments. On Topic: I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that) - but that is no reason to stop reading the comic because on the one hand it is a fictional story and it doesn’t have to be like I see the world - especially because it is supposed to be funny and on the other hand I don’t hate everything that doesn’t fit my expectations… my life would be even more miserable than it is already
If I learn one thing here: Don’t discuss with people who escalate everything to a personal level. It’s pointless and you can’t complain if you respond on the same level. That goes for both sides obviously.
Peace!
Let me think outloud for a minute and see if I can get anywhere with this:
Step 1 — Christian is giant douche, and insults Parker and Guy. Both of them are probably itching to hit him, but they know it wouldn’t be justified, so they restrain themselves.
Step 2 — Christian cancels charity project and fires workers. Totally within his rights to do, but still kinda repulsive. Guy still restrains himself. Psycho fan Parker does not restrain herself.
Step 3 — Parker attacks Christian, rather ineffectively. Guy tries to stop her, since he’s still on the “restraint” side of the equation.
Step 4 — Parker looks back at Guy, giving Christian an opening to counterattack her. Counterattack is only slightly more effective than Parker’s initial attack, and rather more justified.
Step 5 — Guy’s kinda been itching to hit this guy for awhile, but since he was thinking logically, he knew he didn’t have a defensible reason. Now he has an excuse! Granted, not the best excuse, but if you squint the right way… So since Guy was already mad at him, he allows his mind to jump to the (incorrect) conclusion that the best way to defend Parker is to Falcon-Punch Christian.
I think pretty much everyone will agree that in firing all those workers, yanking away all that promised charity etc. etc. Christian DESERVED at LEAST a punch to the face, but of course LEGALLY any physical violence done to him was unjustified. I don’t think people are really making a clear distinction there.
Also I am wondering if part of the reason there has been so much debate/confusion might be due to, well….
First- this is a webcomic: between each set of actions we wait days to see what consequence they have. Generally in the setting of a movie we can see these consequences more or less immediately, and these help us, among other things, determine the message/point that whoever is presenting the story to us is trying to send/make. In the case of a webcomic however we have no such instant clarification and thus can sometimes misinterpret the message the author is trying to send because we haven’t seen any consequences- which until the next page gets posted can make us feel like there *are* no consequences (which is probably not going to be the case) and that perception can drastically change what the author’s point/message seems to be.
Two- Parker is a zany more-or-less loveable main character and because this comic revolves around Guy and Stasia, her being on Guy and Stasia’s side can automatically make people (conciously or not) label her a “good guy” while Christian is pretty much undebateably a Bad Guy (re: firing workers, slighting Guy & Parker, etc.). Thus, especially without the aforementioned consequences to help us filter the message, it is not hard to see how it seems like the story is trying to tell us that Parker was totally justified in attacking, Christian was totally unjustified in retali
January 28th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
great job, i love the last panel.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
PWNED
January 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
DRAT!
If my stupi internet had been wokring, I would have posted first!
BUT ANYWAY
Panel 3 = The Best Panel to have ever been made
But with coloring
it will rule the world!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
The only thing that would complete this picture would be a first generation batman style “BAM, POW, WHAM!” or something like that.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Got to love the Not the face line. He so deserved the face punch and lost tooth . Yay for Guy!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
“The only thing that would complete this picture would be a first generation batman style ‘BAM, POW, WHAM!’ or something like that.”
That was in the script and will be in the color version. A “POW!” will go right under Guy’s fist.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
not the face… LOL. I haven’t seen that line used in a while, always makes me laugh hysterically.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
“Not the face!”
LOL, PWNED!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
hahaha
Yay Guy! Lol @ Parker…
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Sweet! I was hoping he’d do it but I didn’t think he would. I am SO happy now ^_^!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
I love Guy’s expression in panel 2. Great work guys, keep it up.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Panels 2 and 3 practically scream “FALCON PUNCH!”
Guy is awesome.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
OHMYGOD.
I usually -never- -ever- comment, but this page… I almost cried tears of joy. It’s so great. Can’t wait to see the color version.
…
And Stacia’s reaction, of course.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Gee, it sure would be a darn shame if that missing tooth hurt Christian’s career and all. ^^
January 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Holy frickin’ cow! One punch, something tells me Guy has a background in amatuer boxing. Christian deserved it though, and now Staisia knows she has a man that can protect her if need be.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Wow. Go, GUY!
LOL at Parker wanting to finish him off.
January 28th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
iZaz, cabron!
January 28th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Something tells me Stasia might misunderstand this situation. >_> Drama will ensue.
January 28th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
-agrees with Derosian-
but drama is interesting O=
January 29th, 2008 at 10:38 am
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!! Guy did hit that creeper! Ah, best moment of the comic so far. ^_^
Also, i’m sure Stasia will understand! Guy was just protecting his best (and only?) friend from a creep who hit her! plus, i’m sure she wanted to it just as much as him…
January 29th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*
Also: I am not an U.S. resident so I can’t support you through WOWIO. Is it any other way for me to help or is the only other way ordering one of the books? Thanks in advance for any response.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:17 am
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christian is kick ass!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Pfft. Christian will just get rich selling ironic T-shirts (”I got my a$$ kicked by Stasia’s Maybe-Husband!”) through faux indie shops (I’m looking at you, Hot Topic) and then ghost-write a scandalous tell-all “unauthorized” bio of Guy wherein he implies that the entire incident was a homophobic hate-crime against him.
Whoops! Uh, spoilers. (j/k)
January 29th, 2008 at 11:39 am
“FALCON….PAAAUUUUUUUNNCHH!!!!!!!”
Heck yes! Go Guy!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Fucking fantastic job, you two. Seriously.
January 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Weee!! that was a quick update, I’d say. I love Guy more than ever!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
“Oh crap, the big one”
I really loved this line. The last panel was also awesome
January 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
YEAH-YUH!!! YOU GO, GUY!!!
January 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I’ve gotta say, I love a good romantic comedy…
This page is full of awesome and win… More awesome than your comic’s character AFP.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
pretty awesome hope that stasia doesnt kick guys ass to much for that but the creep totally deserved it for hitting a girl
January 29th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Must say that i feel sorry for Chris. He got look and money but very little else. I think he is truly most honest person in this comic (mostly because he doesn’t have enough brain to being dishonest).
On page 55, he said been changed, but it is more like game. He got attention span like little kid. He will just abandon his charity center like dull toy, because Stasia like playing more with Guy.
Chris is more fun while living. And with missing tooth Chris surely look like big idiot.
January 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Violence is great! I say, every bogus melvin should have a hot chick knock him to the mud if he stops doing what he said he was doing! Damn straight! And if that bogus melvin gets out of line with the hot chick that knocks him down, then I say Captain Mary-Sue should bust his head like a melon! By God, Violence Rules! I wish I could take down legions and squadroons of bogus dudes, but you know, they keep finding ways and times to hit back. I mean, bogus!
January 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
The paparazzi must be kicking themselves to have missed such a perfect story.
For some reason (at least in the uncolored version), Christian in panel 3 reminds me of the Joker (from Batman). Probably how his hair frames his eyes and looks like eye makeup.
Anyhow, it’s dental implant time for Christian. They’ve gotten much better these days.
Now I’m curious how Stasia (and her sister) will react…
January 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
*as Bart Simpson* THAT’S THE STUFF, PSYCHO!!! *reverently* And so it begins!!!!!
*shrieks* YES!!!!!!!! *does happy dance*
Michael Buffer: *all disappointed* That Rumble didn’t last for even five seconds…*sigh* Now I have to wait until next years WWE Royal Rumble…*shuffles off*
January 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Panel 3= “SHORIYUKEN!!!!”
This is an awesome update. Thanks for not making us wait to see “what happens next” from last page.
January 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Christian has very nice fingernails.
(Based on Panel 2, at least.)
January 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Great. I really can’t wait to see this colored.. especially the top right panel of Guy charging forward.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
“I didn’t think it possible, but I just fell more in love with Guy right there. Protecting his best friend from a downright ass slapping her? Helping Stasia (even if she’s a star) from all the marriage business? Reading himself to sleep so he could learn more from her? Going to the concert with Parker even though he didn’t like Stasia’s music to begin with? Counselor at school for all problematic and non-problematic children? A HOT GEEK TO BOOT?!
Quite the character you’ve created, Bobby and Eisu. Quite the character.
And now, I was thinking: if I ever see this as a movie, I will buy a poster with the actor who portrays Guy to squee over every morning. I just love a character like that! *swoon*”
amen, my sister. a-men. guy is the ultimate prince charming, and I hope S will see that.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
“Panels 2 and 3 practically scream “FALCON PUNCH!”
Guy is awesome.”
Haha think you can make a version of that, just for kicks? If it’s not any trouble that is.
Favorite page so far
January 29th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
“He’s not dead”
“Darn. Maybe one well-placed kick…”
The BEST response, gotta love Parker. Christian’s so lucky that Guy was there.
Props, Bobby and Eisu
January 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
DAMN! like….everyone beat me to the “falcon Punch” joke! DAMN!
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/KlunArt/misc/falconpunch.jpg
January 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I love this page. I hate males(I say that cuz they aren’t true men) who are willing to hit women.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
I only have two words to say (other than FALCON PUNCH!) and that is Hot Damn. Awesome page.
January 29th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
I’ve been reading this comic ever since I saw the link on No Pink Ponies and I LOVE IT!!! I don’t know why I hadn’t commented in that long, but whatever. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I love the comic and especially this page. This side of Guy is one of the best yet. Not to say his other qualities aren’t great, but I love guys that stand up for the people they care about. Bobby and Eisu, many gold stars to you!! (Really, who needs Oscars and Grammys when you can have gold stars?) ^_^ Keep up the wonderful work!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I love it. I love it so much. You have no idea.
This is my favorite thus far. Yea Guy! Wooo!
January 29th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
A quote from Nacho Libre, if you know the context then it’s very funny.
“A punch to the faaace”
January 30th, 2008 at 12:00 am
“Oh crap, the big one”
Panel one says it all.
It almost made my heart fly out of my chest at Guy’s loyalty.
Almost like “Mess with the chick, and get a little of this!” BAM!
Aha I love his terrified look, that and the way Guy can hold his own.
Doesn’t seem like the kind of councillor I’d know…
We need more councillors like him in the world.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Head shot!
Looks like he lost a tooth as well, but hey he had it coming!
January 30th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Kate, I hope you don’t mind, but I now have that falcon punch image as my book cover!
January 30th, 2008 at 11:31 am
One hit?! One hit and he goes down?! Freakin’ wuss…
Well, that was one hell of a punch. Go Guy!
January 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Yeah! Hit him again!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
YES! Chivalry for the win!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
WOOOOO GO GUY!!! Sucker punches FTW!
January 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
LEFT HOOK’D!
January 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Flawless Victory!
January 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
That was great… but i can’t help but think of what will happen to the budding relationship because of it.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
*gape* Dude…
IT ROCKS EVEN MORE WITH COLOR!!! LOL
I’m STILL doin a happy dance at this page, seriously!!
January 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
“not the face” as opposed to what below the belt?
January 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
haha, falcon punch indeed.
Jerkface got what was coming to him.
January 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I wonder how many times Guy has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason). Never knew Guy would be the violent type.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I’m gonna vector-graphic the 3rd panel and make it to my wallpaper
It’s the best panel in human history
January 31st, 2008 at 1:22 am
Like we didn’t see that coming. It’s like knowing in advance about a huge party you’re throwing and everything is going to be perfect. You look foreward to it, it happens without a hitch; such sweetness.
Now let’s work on daddy!
January 31st, 2008 at 1:32 am
has hit a random guy unconscious just because that Parker girl has attacked the dude beforehand (for no good reason).
It’s not “for no good reason”, the guy was a jerk who laid off workers who was building a charity building and could care less about it after Stasia have asked the guy to reconsider and not do something like that… I think she had a pretty good reason to jump him as well.
January 31st, 2008 at 2:47 am
Just a thought. =. Chris seem very weak (physically and mentally), so he may been sheltered all his live. Does he have some health problem?
If so. Stasia may don’t like Guy’s violent outburst. :/
January 31st, 2008 at 3:15 am
Alex B. writes: he had it coming!
Oh, great. I have Chicago’s Cell Block Tango in my head now. It’s rather appropriate music, though. (=
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you’d have been there
If you’d have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
January 31st, 2008 at 3:16 am
This is without a question this webcomic’s best page yet. And that’s saying something
January 31st, 2008 at 4:16 am
On this occasion I have to agree with the blonde guy. Yes this is a social taboo against hitting women but Parker was attacking him and he slapped hwr in self defense to get her off of him and I think in that case his actions were justified. If Parker doesn’t want to get slapped she shouldn’t attack people. Women its a too way street now, if you are allowed to defend yourself from men who attack you men should be able to defend themselves from women who defend them
January 31st, 2008 at 5:28 am
First time I’ve commented, but I just want to say. Yes, Christian is a jerk. Yes, anyone else would have done the same thing in the moment. No, I don’t think he deserved to be FALCON PAUNCHED Like that. For all of his jerkness he was just walking along when Parker attacked him and all that happened. In the real world I would side with Christian.
But this is a comic, and it does feel oddly satisfying seeing him out cold and missing a tooth. Good job all around.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:51 am
Grth has a point there, though it doesn’t fit the ‘mood’ most are posting about this particular scene; Christian was defending himself - Parker was on top of him semi-strangling him with his scarf. Slapping her may have been a little over-the-top (he was bigger than her and could have just shaken her off), and Guy’s reaction seemed a little impulsive, seeing his best friend hit.
This scene is definitely a good opening for a little drama between Stasia and Guy, should Stasia interpret this as inappropriate actions on the part of Guy and Parker toward Christian, who *is* a friend/acquaintance of hers she’s known MUCH LONGER than her JUST-FORMED relationship(s) with Guy & parker.
Sorry to rain on this ‘he’s pwned’ parade… but there’s still a little reality checking to be made here.
All in all, this is a wonderful story, and I look forward to see where this goes from here.
January 31st, 2008 at 7:23 am
I’m with Danek, I can see why Guy hit Christian (and honestly, I think that there are some self centered ego maniacle people who deserve to be hit) but I don’t think this is insta-pwned.
Being as we were all kind of standing there, watching what happened, I don’t know if I’d be more… stunned that this otherwise very level headed man just one hit KOed a star or if I’d snicker behind Christian’s back at the absurdity that he went down in one hit at all…
I don’t feel the righteous fury of Guy hitting Christian, like, it just didn’t ring with me. I know why he did it - and I know that if it were me, and my best friend, Justin would have done the same. But I don’t know that I would auto-swoon if I were Stacia, is all.
She’s the only person, for me, that I can’t very well guess what she might do. Parker is always going to be crazy, Guy is always going to be Loyal, and Christian’s always going to be a raging dumb #*%&.
As a counter point though for Stacia and Christian - I don’t think they were ever friends. I think they dated, but I don’t think they ever liked each other, let alone loved. I think the emotions Stacia felt at the beginning of the comic, were more along the ropes of being fired from a job you hate. You’re glad to be gone, but it would have been nice to be the one to do the dumping.
I can’t wait to see where this leads!
January 31st, 2008 at 7:33 am
This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.
Wow. Parker takes it upon herself to mete out justice to Christian, so Christian deserves to get punched in the face by Guy? None of this is realistic in any way- that Parker would get openly violent in a situation that she barely knows about, Guy the good student counselor resorts to punching immediately (wonder what he tells his students?)…
I don’t have a problem with you writing a character that would hit a girl, even though a man hitting a woman IRL is wrong (yes, Grth, clearly Parker deserved to get hit by a man much bigger and heavier than her. No strength difference there at all /sarcasm>). What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional. It’s no fun to read.
And please save your breath with “but it’s just a romantic comedy! you’re not supposed to take it so seriously!” If you and Eisu invest time writing and drawing a comic, my assumption is that you want people to take it seriously, not just write comments about duuuuude cool violence!!1
I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before, but at least you’ll read this before you mod it out. Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:26 am
Hey! I adore the comic! It’s awesome! I can’t wait to see what happens next. Keep up the good work
January 31st, 2008 at 8:40 am
Coyotelovely, DanekJovax, a bit of advice?
Stop overanalyzing it and enjoy the senseless violence.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:55 am
Holy crap! What a punch! Heh, Parker just kills me, she’s hilarious. We can only wish that jerk was dead… jeez…
January 31st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Can’t wait for another update! Gotta be patient though. Thanks for the wonderful story and artwork.
On a side note, I remember reading that this story was only supposed to go about 80 pages. To me, the devlopment seems only halfway, two thirds at the most. I think finishing the story in just 20 pages would probably rush it a bit. Please don’t feel bound to finishing at 80 at the expense of the story!
Of course, I’m not the one writing :P, so do as you wish
January 31st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
“I don’t really think that you’ll let this go through, since you’ve erased and blocked people who have have problems with your comic before”
This is obviously a 100% lie. The only reasons I’ve ever banned people is for LYING (like you just did, but I’m not even banning you yet) and for wasting everyone’s time by criticizing ME PERSONALLY INSTEAD OF THE COMIC (like you also just did!).
“Congratulations on having a uniformly congratulatory comments page. It means you’ve alienated everyone who would have given you any kind of critisicm, constructive or otherwise.”
You’ve obviously either been banned previously or know someone who has and you’re extremely bitter about it. THE COMMENTS FOR “MARRY ME” INCLUDE MORE CRITICISM THAN ANY OTHER COMMENTS PAGE OR FORUMS FOR ANY OTHER COMIC IN HISTORY WITH A SIMILAR SIZED AUDIENCE, OTHER THAN MAYBE “LAST BLOOD,” ANOTHER COMIC OF MINE. That is a fact. Try to somehow disprove it. I allow everyone to say whatever they want as long as they’re not flat out lying or just bashing me personally, and I allow some people, like you just now, to even do both of those things for a while until it gets too disgusting and they need to get banned. Almost every other comic writer would delete 90% of the bad comments that I allow to go through. I’ve said this so many times before, so annoying.
None of your complaints made any sense whatsoever. What’s unrealistic about a psycho crazed fan (Parker) attacking a guy who just seriously pissed off the girl she loves, belittled herself and her friend by referring to them as the little one and the big one and assuming that the only reason Stasia would know them is if their dying wish was to meet her, ended his charity and fired all those people, and obviously has a history with Stasia that she knows about and knows how it ended badly before already? She also hated the horrible movie he just starred in, which is reason enough to kill him! And how could it possibly be unrealistic for a guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by someone twice her size???
“What I have a problem with is the characters being consistently one-dimensional.”
Uh, your main complaint about the comic was that the characters, in your opinion, WEREN’T one-dimensional, but you thought their “second” dimension, being capable of violence, was unrealistic. If Guy was one-dimensional, he’d never stop reading and being boring and he certainly wouldn’t falcon punch a movie star.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
En:
You are a decent person but you just don’t get it. “Marry Me” is not really a graphic novel or even a story in the usual sense; instead, ‘Marry Me’ is a commercial venture, a cruise missile aimed at the hormones of American women as a shortcut to their pocketbooks. If women think they have a right to knock men down, then a writer can make money by heroizing women who knock men down; if women think that they should have big blonde boyfriends to beat the teeth of out of men who don’t like being knocked down, then a writer can make money by inventing such big blonde boyfriends, whether the characters or the story make sense or not. The point is to make money by offering women exactly what they want. If American women wake up one morning and decide they like men who paint their toenails, you can bet that Guy will start painting his toenails the next day; and you can bet this board will be full of messages from women begging for the chance to buy posters of Guy painting his toenails. Instead of complaining, En, you should give credit where credit is due, because that’s the way business works.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:32 pm
By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
In my opinion, Christian was somewhat justified, in backhanding Parker. Just because she’s smaller doesn’t remove her ability to kill him, especially with the help of the shirt to strangle him. It’s quite possible that he was reacting through instinct. I mean seriously, if someone you don’t really know is strangling you, you don’t think of the correct way to get them off, you go with the first thing that comes to mind to get them off, because you would be panicking. You would not be debating about if it was justified, or how it goes against chivalry, you’d be more worried about keeping your life. Given…he is still a jerk to begin with.
No, Guy’s punch isn’t fully justified either, but people are not rational, and given the right situation, they will respond with emotions rather than thinking about how fair it is. And that’s what happened here. Guy’s love (friendship) for Parker and wanting her not to be hurt outweighed the rational thoughts of justification.
Anyway, I laughed, and indeed it is a Falcon Punch.
January 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Bobby Crosby says:
>>By the way, Violence Rules is clearly a huge hater of me and this comic, but I’ve allowed all his comments to go through. I assume I’ve banned him previously, though. Maybe he’s En also.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Bobby, I have posted exactly two messages on this board since the day I was born, and both of them are on the board right now; and I promise you this is the only screen name I have ever used here. If you really imagine that I am En or that I could be En, then your intuition for personality and writing styles is pretty weak. All I am is a man who grew up under the fists of a battering stepmother and who married a battering wife, and the only thing I hate here is the dogma which says that women can attack men because women are ’smaller.’
Bobby, I know you need to make a living and I respect that; but I really feel like some truth needs to be said here. Violence is violence even if a ’smaller’ and ’sensitive’ woman is the one who starts it; and if your female readers think that ’smaller’ and ‘more sensitive’ people should have a license to attack ‘larger’ and ‘less sensitive’ people, then why not ask those same women how much they would like being hit and knocked down by their sons and daughters. Should your children stand on a scale every year on their birthdays to see if they are smaller than their mothers or not? And, should your children have a license to inflict domestic violence on their mothers until they stop being smaller than their mothers? Does being ‘bigger’ mean you have no right to the dignity of your own body?
January 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Violence Rules: You’re reading WAY too much into this and you’re misunderstanding me if you think I’m somehow saying what you apparently think I’m saying. I agree with you completely — please tell me where I’ve said otherwise or where the comic has in any way said otherwise.
PARKER ATTACKED CHRISTIAN, CHRISTIAN PUNCHED HER, GUY DEFENDED HIS FRIEND, NO MATTER WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, BECAUSE SHE’S HIS FRIEND AND CHRISTIAN’S AN ASSHOLE AND CHRISTIAN IS TWICE HER SIZE AND IF THERE’S GOING TO BE A FIGHT HE’S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HELP PARKER OUT.
Please tell me how that promotes anything about how women should be allowed to beat men. It doesn’t in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY to anyone with a brain.
Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever. If Guy pushed him down and tried to choke him, he’d possibly succeed and kill him, but Parker was way too small/weak to do any damage that way. Christian can shrug her off like a bug.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Doesn’t change the fact that even when someone you don’t know starts to strangle you, you don’t respond kindly, even if they are smaller then you and of the opposite gender.
“Also, Parker did far less damage to Christian than Christian did to her. He punched her in the face. She pushed him down and basically rubbed his neck with a shirt and he was never in any danger whatsoever.”
The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull. If he doesn’t respond in some sort of way, he could have ended up dying, or most likely passing out. But the mind never thinks rationally when in a panic.
I agree with everything but the twice her size statement. With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“The shirt could do plenty of damage, and if it went on, could actually choke someone, all it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.”
Totally wrong. All he has to do is spin around and throw her off him and then untie the shirt himself.
“With the use of tools, size doesn’t matter, and this case, the shirt was a tool.”
The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size. You’re somehow not realizing that he can just stand up and toss her aside. His arms and legs are completely free — that’s how he was able to punch her, remember? She was sitting on his back, but she’s not nearly heavy enough or strong enough for that to keep him down.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Sorry for kicking in when the discussion has moved to entirely different topics, but anyway:
Actually I found it refreshing not to see any Wham! Blam! Punch! stuff. To me, such punchlines (pardon the pun) are just stating the obvious.
Re the violence discussion: I think Parker simply never managed to hurt anybody, so attacking somebody physically is no big deal for her.
She must be used to being slapped though, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to shrug that slap off so easily.
For the benefit of doubt, I’ll accept Violence’s explanation that he’s subject to female violence.
However, that doesn’t make the comic bad. Any art will, for some individuals, trigger bad memories. Either you deal with the memories or you go look at something else, but it’s *not the fault of the artist*.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Oh SIGH. I’ve made this comment before, but the board ate it.
Parker could NOT strangle Christian like that. You can’t cut off someone’s air with an open loop, not unless you actually put your knee in his neck and then pull with all your might.
If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
“This comic just gets worse and worse every time I come back to it. I do come back every once in a while for the art, but the writing is horrible.”
Frankly, that’s silly.
You know how Google works, right? Well, if you search on “Eisu” and “artist” you get over 4500 hits, one of which is Eisu’s DeviantArt page. IOW, Eisu’s artwork is all over the ‘Net; there is no reason to come to a webcomic you despise just to see it.
And even if you did have to come here, you could always, y’know, look at the pictures and NOT READ THE DIALOGUE.
January 31st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
How AWESOME is it that we get such an “early” update? It was great, as it contributed to the “flow” of the story, made it more violent if you get what I mean. Which you probably don’t, since I sucked at explaining myself.
Whatever.
I understand what’s being said about Parker. But she IS a bit crazy, and that’s precisely why we like her. and Guy being so protective is kind of nice, he is not consciously choosing violence, but reacting to seeing his friend in danger.
I am still very much in love with this cute geek.
and with Marry Me, of course.
January 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
“If you want to strangle someone you use a closed loop. Christian was in danger of having a few fabric burns on his neck, nothing more. Which is born out by the fact that he was shouting and calling for help. Not exactly sounds someone makes whose air supply has been cut off.”
This is what I said and I quote “All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.” Sounds to me like closing the loop.
“The shirt was a SHIRT, not a GUN, and she’d need a gun or a knife or some tool like that to kill someone twice her size.”
And I don’t think the shirt was being used as a shirt at the time, so that would make it a tool for another purpose that it wasn’t meant for. Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by “if it went on” was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him. Had it gone on longer, Christian might have done something worse than what he did.
Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place. When he is being strangled, he doesn’t pay attention to the size of the person, or how tight it is against his neck, first thing he’ll notice is that there is something pulling against his neck. Now, I don’t know about you, but in that case, I wouldn’t take kindly to someone trying to strangle me out of the blue, and probably, I’d be panicking at the time to get them off. So Christian, panicking and acting out in instinct, gets her off of him by “back-handing” her. No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.
Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him. I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason, he might be more inclined not care about her safety over his.
Sorry for dragging this argument/debate on. I still love this comic for what it is, it’s just the way your saying “She’s smaller” it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions. Anyway, good luck.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:19 pm
“This is what I said and I quote ‘All it would take is for Parker to cross the two ends and pull.’ Sounds to me like closing the loop.”
But did you miss the part where Parker never did that???
“Sorry for not clarifying, but what I meant by ‘if it went on’ was, if it were to go on, without Christian fighting back, Parker could have formed the loop and started to strangle him.”
Very confused. Why would any possible scenario matter involving Christian not fighting back? Obviously he’s not going to let her murder him (and she wouldn’t actually kill him anyway), but, as I’ve said a million times, there was no need to punch her in the face when he could have just plain STOOD UP and shook her off, or at worst he could just push her off him. He didn’t need to punch her. OBVIOUSLY everyone agrees that he shouldn’t have let her KILL HIM, JEEZ.
“Anyways, what I’m trying to get at is that Christian is being strangled, by someone he barely knows and has no right to attack him in the first place.”
That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.
“No, he did not punch her, his hand is clearly open.”
My intention was for it to be a closed fist punch. The final art made it look more like a slap, but who gives a shit — it’s a back handed hit where his knuckles make contact with her face and resulted in a bruise on her cheek, as you can see some of on Panel 5 of this page. That’s a punch to me and it’s incredibly stupid for you to argue that point and try to correct me about what happened in the comic that I wrote. It’s also posible that the contact with her face made his fist open up. We’re only seeing his hand AFTER making contact, not before or during contact.
“Even though she is small, she still has the ability to kill him.”
Stop repeating the same nonsense. She clearly does not have the ability to kill him or even cause any significant injury to him in the manner that she’s attempting it. Again, if she had a gun or a knife, she could kill him. Definitely can’t do it with that shirt unless she drugged him first or gained 300 pounds (but even then she probably couldn’t kill him unless one or both of his arms were also tied behind his back or trapped under her bulk in some way). This nonsense reminds me of people actually saying that Parker was guilty of ATTEMPTED RAPE for what she said on Page 36. Such insane stupidity.
“I’m not saying he was justified in his attack of her, but being panicked and probably angry from being attacked in the first place for no reason”
Again, it’s your opinion that he was attacked for no reason and I think it’s a very stupid opinion. I think she has about 10 great reasons to attack him, the most important one being how heartless he just was in regards to the livelihoods of dozens of Kenyans, people who grow up with a life expectancy in the 40s, with further implications that will deny much needed help to thousands more Kenyans. He fires these workers, shortly after hiring them, by no fault of their own, and he ends a charity that could have done a lot of good. Stasia’s super rich, but not even Oprah can fix the lives of everyone in the world, nor could 1,000 Oprahs or 1,000 Stasias. They need as much help as they can get, and Stasia commits her money to many different causes, cancer research being #1. Also, as I’ve said before, Parker possibly saved Christian’s life by attacking him. Those workers sure didn’t look pleased, but Parker defused their possible attack on him by doing her own before they could reach him.
“it’s just the way your saying ‘She’s smaller’ it’s like saying Christian doesn’t have the right to respond in turn for her actions.”
I’ve never said that or insinuated that in any conceivable way whatsoever and I’m getting sick of morons like you saying I did. Anyone who says anything like that again will be banned.
Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons). You keep saying that her size doesn’t remove her ability to kill him with the shirt — YES, IT DOES! Try using your brain and actually reading the comic and seeing that she clearly could not hurt him because she’s too small/weak and he was easily able to punch her aside. And not a single person has in any way said that Christian shouldn’t have responded. OBVIOUSLY HE’S NOT GOING TO LET HER KILL HIM, but punching her was unnecessary and went too far. If he just pushed her aside, Guy wouldn’t have punched him obviously, but instead would have ran up and pushed him back to separate them and told him to get the fuck out.
January 31st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
couple things to say:
1: Way to go Guy!
2: “NOT THE FACE” most awesome line EVER!
3: third panel: Love the missing tooth
4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2
great job on the page in general and the whole book thus far. it’s awsome
January 31st, 2008 at 9:18 pm
“4: Good thing Stasia didn’t see this because
5: Guy looks REALLY scary in panel 2″
She saw it. She was running right behind him, as you can see in Panel 4 of Page 59. She saw Guy from behind for the punch, though.
January 31st, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Heh…well, at this point I guess I mad a fool of myself, huh?
I’ll give up on the “Smaller size” topic, because clearly I lost there, and I apologize for the trouble I’ve caused you. Really…my bad.
By “Parker having the right to attack him”, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now, and hopefully I won’t be attacked for this, she’s taking action while others who do have more right to do so won’t. I guess it’s possibly also for the insults he used.
That’s about it, otherwise, I’m done. I’m very sorry for my stupidity and lack of paying attention to details…and arguing with the writer, who obviously knows more than I do about a characters’ traits and strengths (this is note sarcasm). Again, I love this comic, and I’m sorry I cause you a hard time as well as frustration. Good Luck.
January 31st, 2008 at 9:59 pm
And I meant to say (this is not sarcasm)*. My bad.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
“By ‘Parker having the right to attack him’, she doesn’t. Christian has done nothing to Parker herself, but since I’m using my brain now”
Why do you keep saying this nonsense??? Of course he did things to Parker herself and you’re making me repeat them AGAIN, ugh, and no, you’re still not using your brain. Did you miss the part where Christian openly acted like the only reason Parker and her best friend should ever be seen by Stasia is if they’re dying of something and this is their dying wish that she’s granting? Christian also was clearly told their names but then decided to refer to Parker and Guy as the big one and the little one because he felt they were too inferior to him to even be called by their names. He might as well have just spit in their faces. Read old comments of mine for MANY more reasons why Parker attacked him. The list goes on and on, really, but you continue to ignore all of them.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Ok…I’m done, no more arguing/failing at debating points for me. I get it. Sorry for the trouble.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
“Also, JSB, you’ve made three comments on this page and all three have said that Parker had the ability to kill him, which no one with a brain agrees with and which multiple people have refuted in detail multiple times. Stop making us repeat the same common sense points about how she can’t kill him as attempted and that the reason for that is her size/strength (and lack of significant weapons).”
Ok, I just want to state that she DID have the ability to kill him. Now that, that was stated, I would also like to say, the WAY she was trying to kill him, had a 0% chance succeding.
Still, she didn’t need any weapons to kill him. I wrestle in school, I went agaisnt my budy who is litterally twice my size. (He’s 300lbs, I’m 160). I had him tapping out in 30 seconds.
Obviously Parker had to ability to take him to the ground, all she had to do was elbow him in the soft spot on the back of his head if she wanted to actually kill him.
Now before we get into personality, I just wanted to make a point that size, and lack of weapon, while they played a roll, were not the main reason we are not at a Christian funeral right now.
I believe, (My opinion) that the reasons she didn’t kill him, are method (A palm thrust to the nose would have been fine) and Desire. (She didn’t ACTUALLY want to kill him.) She only wanted to hurt an asshole, a feeling we all get, I’m sure, everyday.
There, now that I’ve stated my personal opinion, I will now dive into a pool to avoid flames.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Also, even if Christian hadn’t done anything personally to Parker I think he deserves an attack from anyone in the area for firing those workers and ending his charity for the reason he did, which was pretty disgusting to me. And the reason I’ve been so harsh with you — this being said to the people who will whine about our exchange and say that I’ve been a horrible asshole yet again to a fan — is because you say either false things or opinion based things in such absolutes like “he did not punch her” and “she doesn’t [have the right to attack him]” and so on, which is pretty annoying to me, along with making me (and others) repeat things many times, like about how Parker clearly couldn’t kill him in that situation. Anyway, glad to see that you’re not one of those people who gets super pissed off and sensitive about such things.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence? Especially since he was walking away and in no way threaten anybody. Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.
I’m not gonna weep over Christian’s fate ind you, and I found it highly amusing. But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.
If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day ;P
January 31st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Speaking as a lawyer, Nairobi is an English common law jurisdiction, so has a shares a similar legal tradition with America. Parker commited assault and battery upon Christian, and Christian was well justified to use reasonable force in self-defense. Since Parker’s attack was unprivileged, Guy’s attack is also unprivileged and is also liable in assault and battery. Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time. I’d have to imagine the potential cost ramifications of Christian’s tooth would easily bankrupt Guy if he chose to pursue legal recourse.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Well, It’s probably true that I was very annoying…and no, I don’t get super pissed or sensitive, and most of the time I’ll admit I’m wrong and apologize for it. But I might feel a bit better about this situation without the insults. But then again, since I was stating my false opinions, and taking the comic as absolute, like you said, I guess that would be an insult to you and your comic/story
But now, at least I can look back on this and laugh at my stupidity. Next time I’ll make sure I have all possible info before I argue again. No hard feelings?
January 31st, 2008 at 10:45 pm
to the one who has been beaten by his mother: i am sorry to hear that and it really sucks , may it be father or brother or mother or sister its never fun to be beaten up by some1 of his own family when your growing up
to the same guy who married a girl who beats him up: you kinda had it for you there man…
onto my coment about this comic now
but anyways , ive also had a problem once with one of my formers girlfriend
thats how it went: one day we got into this argument and her already explosive temper exploded and she srated attacking me ,couples of punch there and couples kicks here nothing to be worry about ( she was 5 ft 100lbs max and i go 5”10 and 200….) but the simple fact of being hit repeatedly aint that fun you know?
so after 30-45 seconds i was very tired of bloking and getting her blows so i punched her somewhat hard sqare in her chest , choking tyhe air out of her for a sec or two and instantly stopping her attack on me
while i do not ammend the fact of hitting a woman since i kinda consider myself a gentleman of some sort i have to admit in the past ive had problems that wouldnt be solved by speaking ( them attacking me) but only in reality checking punches so i totaly agree with the fact that christian punched ”the litle one” to free himself , i personally would have mostly done the same
but i personaly have a 1st degree blackbelt in judo that i l;earned mostly to protect my friends and girlfriend in moments they would need it
yes when we look at the situation from a neutral point of view parker was going overboard, you have to see it
BUT parker is the friend of guy
a friend which is a girl on top of that
a friend which is a girl that got punched by a man of average male size while she is of average female size too
its like adding the little cherry on all the creamy topping
now you violence haters of all kind tell me this, would you really not have helped you friend parker?
i sure know i would have , its only normal
but would you really have standed there to get choked/pummeled by a girl even if your twice her size?
i know i would have got my way trough her to get free
personally i hate christian and i love guy , which denotes that the writer of this comic bobby crosby ( who is very nice to speak to if you dare try instead of bashing him here )is doing a wonderfull job in fleshing the characters the way they should be
i personally didnt discover any new factes i didnt knew parker had , but i persnally am thrilled by guy jumping to save her friend . evenn if shes clearly guilty and not staying there and yelling at them to stop like so many protagonists have done lately in romance flicks
so to sum it up
being beaten down by gurls is bad
hitting gurls is bad exept when you must defend yourself against ONGOING assaults
protecting weaker than ourselves friends no matter what is pretty good
congrats to bobby in doing such a great work with the characters of this comic
and i hope you dont get your hopes down on the readers of this comic becauz of such *arhem* bobby , they just really need love
or to be beaten some sense in by their wives
your guess xD
January 31st, 2008 at 10:54 pm
“I think JSB has a point. Christian has been a massive jerk, granted, but since when does it justify physical violence?”
Since the beginning of time maybe? This is Earth you’re living on. And it’s more than just being a massive jerk when you hire poor people to do a job and then fire them almost instantly after that for no reason and also end a charity that could have saved lives.
“Heck Parker was strangling him when he hit her, it was basically self-defense.”
Of course it was self defense. No one’s arguing that! It was slightly excessive self defense, in my opinion, but I do NOT HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIAN PUNCHING PARKER. But I also have absolutely zero problem with Guy punching Christian after Christian punched Parker, because at that point Guy is essentially OBLIGATED to do so. Parker is now in a FIGHT with a guy twice her size and if Guy doesn’t come in and back her up he’s being a horrible friend and a coward, no matter if her attack on Christian was justified or not.
“But Guy and Parker assaulted him for really weak reasons.”
I think only total morons would think Guy punched Christian for a weak reason. Parker’s reasoning was debatable, but in my opinion she was perfectly justified in doing so. Either way, Parker’s already been established as a psycho fan.
“If I punched every name-calling immature losed I crossed paths with I’d be out of a job and have really sore fists within a day”
If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.
“Not only could Christian sue them both in the court of law, they could serve jail time.”
LOL. Every single witness absolutely despises Christian and if anything he’d be the one serving jail time for punching Parker. Also, Stasia is one of the most beloved people in Nairobi and all of Kenya for the tens of millions she donates to charity there and for the personal work she does to help their people. Any possible court case would go however she wants it to go.
JSB: No hard feelings, of course.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:56 pm
I don’t think there’s gonna be legal ramifications to what happened, even though in real life Guy would be pretty much doomed since people like Chistian have excellent lawyers.
It’s just not the focus of the story.
I don’t think it’s even possible to legally go to Africa the way they did in the comic. Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?
It’s just a very fun and engaging cartoon, with great chemistry between the two leads. The story works very well the way it’s writen, and it’s at least as realistic as anything Hollywood releases in an average year
January 31st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
“If you punched every guy who punched your much smaller female friend you’d still have your job and not have sore fists at all.”
If my much smaller friend picks a fight with a guy twice her size, wrestles him to the ground and starts strangling him with a dirty rag, she’s welcome to the consequences of her actions. As long as the guy isn’t using excessive force.
And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried
Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you. I really feel welcome now.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Pascalken: Liked your comment, thanks.
“Wouldn’t they need to get their passports, get authorisation to leave the airport AND get a few shots to boost their immune systems before going?”
At least a dozen people have been banned in the disgusting arguments about that topic. I forget which pages to refer you to — somewhere in the 40s mostly. Or just google “marrymemovie” and “passport.”
“Oh, and thanks for calling me a moron for disagreeing with you.”
Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.
“And let’s face it. Christian couldn’t use eccessive force even if he tried”
It doesn’t matter, but I’m quite confused by that. He’s a big guy and almost certainly works out. Most movie stars, especially young ones like him, are in great shape, and he’s also incredibly stupid and clearly doesn’t really understand how the world works, and just maybe he’d start beating the crap out of Parker if Guy didn’t jump in and help.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:30 pm
I think how it is interesting how one comic can prompt such ideas and debates. It takes a talented person to create situations that can stir such emotions. A talented writer can almost make the reader dispise any character that they wish. A talented writer can create situations that give a feeling of justification for the reader.
I personally enjoyed seeing Christian getting pounced, I also enjoyed a friend protecting another. No matter what opinions we may have about this comic I believe that some of the readers (including myself) can agree that this comic is fulfilling it’s purpose: to entertain. I enjoy this comic and I look forward to more updates.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Geez, even if Guy’s action is not justified, it’s just what anyone loving and eventually hotblooded will do if your best friend ist knocked down, even if it was just for some reason to do that. So cut it out and read the comic as a comic or leave it be. That’s not “real life” or “how to teach my child the proper actions in any difficult situations of life”
January 31st, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly. Could he have bucked the much smaller Parker off or somesuch if he tried? Probably. However, people need to consider that if Parker actually was succeeding in choking him in any way, whether by airway constriction or a half-assed blood choke, the logical part of Christian’s brain was shutting down very, very rapidly and subsiding to panic. The human mind is DESIGNED to react this way, and he may not have done the same thing had she been, say, pulling his hair, when his logical problem-solving would had remained intact. And, in fairness, he’s not all that bright to start.
Guy’s reaction, I’m neutral on (though I’ll admit I lean more towards “go Guy!” than not. ;)). It’s awesome that he’s willing to defend his friend and is so chivalrous, but Christian wasn’t entirely justified. Of course, maybe he didn’t expect the poor bastard to have such a glass jaw.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Excuse me, “unjustified.”
“Christian wasn’t entirely unjustified.”
January 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
ViolenceRules: I’m sorry about your personal history, and thank you for sharing it. I didn’t mean in my previous comment that women, being generally smaller, have the right to be abusive and violent. I don’t think Parker was right to attack him at all. (I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.) My point was that Christian, being larger, should have been able to know how to get her off without using that level of force.
My problems were with poorly written characters, period. Parker’s shown to be insane? We already know this. Christian’s shown to be an idiot? Same. Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.
Why, yes, I have been banned from here before, thank you for asking. Bitter? Not so much. I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally), but it’s not that critical. Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).
January 31st, 2008 at 11:58 pm
“I’m female and I feel that Christian only overreacted slightly.”
Just want to say again that I agree with this description and have never said otherwise. I also want to repeat that I don’t think the justification level of Christian’s punch matters in any way for Guy’s response. I think Guy’s perfectly justified in punching Christian even if Christian was perfectly justified in punching Parker. Sometimes things just have to happen that way, no matter how they were started. Didn’t World War I happen because all these countries had treaties with other countries where they HAD to come to their aid if they got into a war, so almost the whole world ended up fighting just because some moron’s son was killed? Sort of a similar thing here, except luckily no one died in this skirmish.
February 1st, 2008 at 12:02 am
Great comic, honestly. I’d definitely be happy to see this on the big screen at some point in time (as long as the acting isn’t just plain awful).
I’m just wondering, after Christian hits Parker, how does he get into a semi-upright position before Guy gets up to him so that he can get punched to the ground? I thought he was still on the ground when he hit Parker.
If you saw your friend get hit by a guy you know for a fact is a pompous jerk, I’m pretty sure most people would react immediately with some sort of violent type action, or at least a “Get the **** away from my friend” response. It doesn’t really matter whether it was the “smart” thing to do or not. Not trying to say I disagree at all with Guy’s reasons, since I think he had perfectly good reasons for what he did and honestly, I’d have done the same thing in his position.
Parker does make some very amusing situations, doesn’t she?
Please keep it up!
February 1st, 2008 at 12:25 am
“I don’t know what world you’re living in, Bobby, but where I come from people don’t get assaulted just on the grounds of being a douche.”
#1, on Earth people get assaulted and killed all the time for just being a douche. #2, what he did was a lot worse than just being a douche, as I’ve explained 3,000 times already on this page alone. If you can’t understand that, and I know you can’t, since you can’t understand ANYTHING AT ALL and you prove this with everything you say, then that’s too bad.
“Guy is protective of Parker, no matter how crazy her actions? The punch was out of character, and IMO really stupid, but we know this about him already. Showing people out of character doesn’t make them well-rounded.”
How the fuck is it out of character for a nice guy to defend his friend??? It’s extremely in character. Also, the “out of character” complaint is almost always incredibly wrong and incredibly stupid and that’s certainly the case here. First of all, we don’t know a whole lot about about Guy yet, so it’s basically impossible to say that something he does is out of character. Also, people in real life act “out of character” CONSTANTLY. How many times have you said “I can’t believe I did that” or “I can’t believe he did that” or “I can’t believe you did that — that doesn’t sound like you at all!”? It happens all the time. When people act “out of character” is when they’re most revealing of their true character. But it makes no sense on any level whatsoever to say that Guy’s punch was out of character. Please try to explain to me how it’s conceivably stupid for Guy to defend his best friend who was just punched by a guy twice her size. Do it in an e-mail, though, since you’re obviously banned yet again for being a lying asshole.
“I’d like to know *why* I was banned (I was Troglodyke, my critisicm back then was that Parker is really one-dimensional- see a theme here?- and I didn’t lie or insult you personally)”
You definitely did at least one of those things and probably both. My e-mail history doesn’t go back that far, so I can’t see the deleted comments, but I’m 99.9% sure that you made at least one comment after the only one that I can find and I’m quite sure it contained more lies and personal insults. You already insinuated that you made at least one comment that didn’t go up. ANYWAY, here’s the comment that I did find –
http://www.marrymemovie.com/main/2007/11/13/page-51-friends/#comment-6626
First you confused me with Eisu, then you said that I’m condescending to Parker and that I only used a lesbian in the story to distract from the main plotline. You also said a bunch of stupid shit that made no sense. See my response –
http://www.marrymemovie.com/main/2007/11/13/page-51-friends/#comment-6645
My guess is you made one more comment after that and it was so annoying and filled with more personal shit about me that I deleted it and banned you.
“Kind of funny, though, that you ban people from here for insulting you but you feel free to call your fan base morons and idiots (and worse in previous pages).”
In almost all cases I only insult people after they’ve already insulted me, and those people, like you, are very rarely fans of the comic. I do like, though, how you use the excuse of “I like to look at the pretty pictures” for the reason why you continue to read every page of a comic you hate so much and have been banned from the comments of. And in the other cases where I insult people it’s usually a general thing like “Only morons would think Guy was stupid to defend his friend in a fight,” which is just a fact. Anyone who disagrees with that should kill themselves for being so insanely fucking stupid.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:01 am
Panel 3. Nice hit.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:04 am
I’ve never seen so many posts made by Bobby…
People, this is not a hard fucking concept.
As Bobby has clearly said, and if you spent more than three seconds thinking about it:
Parker attacked Christian for pissing off Stasia. Parker tries to choke him with a shirt. Christian hits Parker in self-defense, however he over-does it (or this is at least how it is supposed to come off). Guy steps in for Parker to defend her, not caring whether she’s in the right or wrong, but rather sticking up for his friend.
Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:40 am
Bobby feels that it’s okay to attack people who say mean things to you. This might be messed up logic, but he’s the writer so deal with it. Besides, it’s not like anyone is out of character.
1. Parker is insane, we know this
2. Christian is an ass, we know this
3. Guy is loyal to friends, we know this
They all show these traits in new ways (Pounching, bitch punching, and falcon punching), but they’re still the same traits on the same people.
February 1st, 2008 at 2:47 am
Bobby Crosby writes: Didn’t World War I happen … because some moron’s son was killed?
Sorry to nitpick, but moron seems unfair. Reactionary fool might be appropriate, but moron is perhaps better suited to serious inbreds, like Carlos II of Spain, whose mother was also his aunt and grandmother. But even that is unfair since it was not his fault. But he was sterile (as well as physically and mentally disabled), and his passing kicked off the Wars of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). That was a world war that also realigned global power and left at least several hundreds of thousands of people dead.
As for Franz Ferdinand, he was not expected to become the heir. Many people had to die before his murder to set up the situation. (Real life stories often seem less believable than fiction. =)
But what does this have to do with the comic, you ask? Ah, because the real cause was a bad marriage and a meddling father!
Archduke Rudolf, Ferdinand’s cousin and heir to the empire, had an unhappy marriage. So, Rudolf got himself a mistress, of whom his father did not approve. So unstable Rudolf went and killed his mistress and himself. Since Rudolf was only heir of his father, the throne went to the king’s brothers. Since the middle brother, Archduke Maximillian, got himself killed two decades earlier while playing emperor in the foreign land of Mexico, that left Archduke Charles Louis as heir. And Charles deferred in favor of his eldest son, Franz Ferdinand.
If Ferdinand’s meddling Uncle (Emperor Franz Joseph) had consented fully to Ferdinand’s wedding (and not hoped for inbreeding instead), Ferdinand and his wife Sophie probably would not have been in Sarajevo and someone else would have gotten killed instead, delaying the war until some other incident started it.
The US NY Times article announcing Charles Louis’ death is actually rather amusing, by the way:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9406E1DE153BEE33A25753C2A9639C94679ED7CF
It describes hims as “a Hapsburg of the most reactionary, narrow-minded, and bigoted kind”. But it doesn’t call him a moron. (=
February 1st, 2008 at 2:52 am
Bobby Crosby says:
>>That’s your opinion that she has no right to attack him — I think she has every right in the world to do so and that a lot more pieces of shit like him should be attacked.<<
Violence Rules replies:
Really? Tell me, if everybody who fails to provide jobs to hungry Kenyans deserves to be attacked, won’t that mean that three hundred million Americans are due to get hit any time now?
Bobby, you have proven what I said. You created an imaginary person called ‘Christian,’ and your imaginary person does not resemble a real person in any way, unless you intend Christian to be a schizophrenic or a drug addict, or both. No real person would actually imagine that a straight woman — a woman whom he knows to be straight — is as likely to marry a woman as a man. No real person is likely to distinguish between a man and a woman by calling them ‘the big one’ and ‘the little one.’ What, is Christian the only person in this nation who cannot see a person’s gender? Or, is Christian the only person in this nation who considers height a more important distinguishing characteristic than gender? No real person could spend weeks or months working in Kenya and not know that the people of Kenya do not speak Spanish — that is simply impossible. And, if Christian thinks the workers speak Spanish, why doesn’t he fire them in Spanish? And, if Christian is already rich, why does he spend thousands — or millions — trying to ‘win the love’ of a rich girl? And, if Christian wants the love of this rich girl so much, why does he walk away from his project in such a casual manner? Is he stoned?
The answers are all obvious. Christian is not in any way, shape, or form a real person, and he does not resemble a real person. You invented Christian for one reason and for one reason only. You know that your female market likes seeing women attack men, and you knew that your female market will pay money for a product in which men beat up men who protect themselves from women who attack men. This board is already full of messages from women who are glad to see you affirm this ‘basic right.’ Encouraging domestic violence should make you good money, but it is still wrong.
I tried to post this three times, and it would not go through. The error signal says “Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress, ” so it does not look like this message will go through. Bobby, your server is down more often than it is up. Maybe you should look for a different hosting package.
February 1st, 2008 at 6:01 am
“Those of you who are bitching about how Guy is in the wrong to step in for Parker remember, it’s a matter of opinion. If you don’t like it, stop reading the comic. If you don’t want to stop reading the comic, stop bitching and sending personal attacks at Bobby. If you’re incapable of either, shoot yourself. Simple.”
Amen
February 1st, 2008 at 6:05 am
in truth, you don’t need a closed loop to strangle someone to death, you only need a closed loop to strangle yourself. If you, and I don’t care how small you may be, are kneeling on top of someone’s back with a rope, a scarf, or anything else long enough around the front of their neck, you can kill them.
now despite what I just said, I will agree that her chances of killing him from that position are slim to less than none. In order to actually kill him, she could place her knee at his spine, wrap the scarf around her hands, and then pull REALLY hard.
on a side note, what I meant by the whole ‘good thing Stasia didn’t see’ was she probably couldn’t see his face since she was behind him.
also, sorry if this makes me sound like a total goob but what is the whole ‘falcon punch’ reference about?
February 1st, 2008 at 6:07 am
I also love how he just grabs her foot mid swing as if that would have no chance of disrupting her balance and knocking her over
February 1st, 2008 at 6:30 am
Bobby, taking time to appease or justify yourself to the vast minority of the dissenters out there that hate your *in-progress* work of Marry Me is only going to be a 100% a waste of time. Leave the detail wrangling to us supporter fanboys/gals.
There’s no need wasting your energy on those attention-grabbing mental/emotional vampires and set it towards continuing your work. Saves on headaches and bad mood days too, if I remember correctly. ;2)
Anyways, my 2 cents say this comic is a good read thus far, and I can’t make any final personal judgments until the story is done.
Ok, now where were we? Oh yeah…
February 1st, 2008 at 6:36 am
Best page so far.
I miss the days when the comments were full of spoilers, not arguments.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:20 am
Why does everyone keep saying that parker was strangling christian? Since when is pulling back on a shirt the same thing as strangling? Sounds like people are just pulling arguments out of their ass for the sake of arguing.
Have someone pull back on a shirt that is around your neck, and keep a hand on the shirt(just like Christian), and you will be able to breathe just fine. Also make sure that you are about 200 pounds, and whoever is ontop of you is 110(at the most). All you will have to do to get up is roll over, not smack the person in the face.
Her violence was justified, so stop trying to pull these stupid arguments out of nowhere. Jeez.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:24 am
maybe guy should replace cap. falcon in the new smash bros game.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:00 am
You know what, I’m going to make a complaint about the comments.
I have always taken the comments as being a place to offer constructive critisisms. I’ve read back and seen that someone told me not to read so much into it - but speaking from a writer’s standpoint (it’s what I do for a living - I work for a Newspaper) I would want nicely worded critisism if I thought it would help the integrity of the story.
My problem is this. I would never. EVER. Attack Bobby.
I think he’s come up with a delightful, unusual premise for a story. Yes, I’m having trouble swallowing Parker attacking Christian - but as I said back in one of my comments, Parker has *always* been over the top and as I said last page, my personal feelings on the subject aside - I think she acted in character.
I’m not (trying to be) overly critical, I’m trying to voice my opinions to Bobby, in the hopes that if he really does get a shot to make it to the movies, that he has a chance to review some of the Constructive comments to make the movie as successful as he could ever want it to be. It’s been my experience that having an outsider’s view can only help sometimes.
That said, the uproar from the story based on the previous pages should be enough to think that in this story’s next incarnation, it might need to be looked at. Considering a sample of people who respond (based on marketing results from retail stores) most people don’t complain when they have a problem with something, they simply never come back. So the story complaints that your readers are having mean that there have to be some people who have simply left.
I don’t want you to lose readers. Thus far, I’ve really liked this story. I’m a hopeless romantic, so my heart is beating to see more interaction between Guy and Stacia - but really that’s just me totally loving all aspects of Romance all the time. (Guess what I write as a hobby
)
Honestly, though, I’m disgusted with some of the critics here. If you’re not trying to be helpful, get out. There’s no reason to be mean.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:01 am
Testing. I think the page ate my comment.
February 1st, 2008 at 8:49 am
wow this page is really good and we see more of Guys’ character. Not every guy will punch another guy out. Plus this is the first time Guy has been seen looking so absolutely pissed. Then sseing Parker’s comment makes me think that Guy does have a temper at times. and probably defended her a few other previous times with the same result.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:26 am
haha, I just read the bit where someone was complaining cos a COMIC wasn’t realistic…mwhahaa… have they ever heard of batman..? awesome page btw, that Christian sure got what was coming to him.
Annnnd if a man hits a woman it is soo normal for another man or woman to then knock him to the ground and pound on him a little bit. Its just how it goes and anyone who has said or thinks otherwise has clearly been living on the moon in a small moon hut with no tv or radio for the last billion years!
This comic rocks and people who dont like it should just not read it, i don’t get why they bother commenting at all…I love reading all the funny comments that people put while I’m waiting for new updates and all you complainers just ruin my frickin day.
peace.
February 1st, 2008 at 9:46 am
I really liked this comic! Cooows! XD
February 1st, 2008 at 9:49 am
I loves it!
February 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am
BOOM! HEAD SHOT!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:19 am
I personally feel that Parker wasn’t justified in attacking Christian. I don’t agree with your reasonings to why she did it. I feel her reasons were wrong. It’s not okay to hit people just because they pissed you off. It’s barbaric.
It’s really disheartening to see the writer of this comic resorting to insults and name-bashing when someone interprets his work differently than they intended. And because of Bobby’s insults, I can’t read this comic anymore.
February 1st, 2008 at 11:42 am
The comments are even more entertaining than the comic
I really don’t understand why you get so upset about some comments. On Topic: I think in this situation there is the choice of not punching Christian. I probably wouldn’t do it (so i am obviously a moron and maybe I’ll shoot myself for that) - but that is no reason to stop reading the comic because on the one hand it is a fictional story and it doesn’t have to be like I see the world - especially because it is supposed to be funny and on the other hand I don’t hate everything that doesn’t fit my expectations… my life would be even more miserable than it is already
If I learn one thing here: Don’t discuss with people who escalate everything to a personal level. It’s pointless and you can’t complain if you respond on the same level. That goes for both sides obviously.
Peace!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:44 am
Kick im! Kick im! KICK IM! I’LL SETTLE FOR THE GROIN!
February 1st, 2008 at 11:47 am
Let me think outloud for a minute and see if I can get anywhere with this:
Step 1 — Christian is giant douche, and insults Parker and Guy. Both of them are probably itching to hit him, but they know it wouldn’t be justified, so they restrain themselves.
Step 2 — Christian cancels charity project and fires workers. Totally within his rights to do, but still kinda repulsive. Guy still restrains himself. Psycho fan Parker does not restrain herself.
Step 3 — Parker attacks Christian, rather ineffectively. Guy tries to stop her, since he’s still on the “restraint” side of the equation.
Step 4 — Parker looks back at Guy, giving Christian an opening to counterattack her. Counterattack is only slightly more effective than Parker’s initial attack, and rather more justified.
Step 5 — Guy’s kinda been itching to hit this guy for awhile, but since he was thinking logically, he knew he didn’t have a defensible reason. Now he has an excuse! Granted, not the best excuse, but if you squint the right way… So since Guy was already mad at him, he allows his mind to jump to the (incorrect) conclusion that the best way to defend Parker is to Falcon-Punch Christian.
Step 6 — Stasia catches up and says…?
February 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Epic, absolutely epic.
February 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I think pretty much everyone will agree that in firing all those workers, yanking away all that promised charity etc. etc. Christian DESERVED at LEAST a punch to the face, but of course LEGALLY any physical violence done to him was unjustified. I don’t think people are really making a clear distinction there.
Also I am wondering if part of the reason there has been so much debate/confusion might be due to, well….
First- this is a webcomic: between each set of actions we wait days to see what consequence they have. Generally in the setting of a movie we can see these consequences more or less immediately, and these help us, among other things, determine the message/point that whoever is presenting the story to us is trying to send/make. In the case of a webcomic however we have no such instant clarification and thus can sometimes misinterpret the message the author is trying to send because we haven’t seen any consequences- which until the next page gets posted can make us feel like there *are* no consequences (which is probably not going to be the case) and that perception can drastically change what the author’s point/message seems to be.
Two- Parker is a zany more-or-less loveable main character and because this comic revolves around Guy and Stasia, her being on Guy and Stasia’s side can automatically make people (conciously or not) label her a “good guy” while Christian is pretty much undebateably a Bad Guy (re: firing workers, slighting Guy & Parker, etc.). Thus, especially without the aforementioned consequences to help us filter the message, it is not hard to see how it seems like the story is trying to tell us that Parker was totally justified in attacking, Christian was totally unjustified in retali