Page 61: I’d Kill Him
Wednesday, February 6th, 2008I hope no one ever punches Janny right after Stasia walks into the room! Because that would be sad that Janny got punched, and that Stasia would have to feel somewhat bad about being a murderer for the rest of her life.
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February 6th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
lol this one really made me laugh!!! it is amazing~!~ i love your comic, very rich, keep it up!
February 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
“I don’t know how it is where you come from…” Seriously how is it possible to make me laugh at every single panel?!?
I bow down to the (online) comedic masters.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
xD I love Denny. “I wanted to see what he’d do.” =]
February 6th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
lol
February 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
And so last comics debate is finally put to rest. And good ridance. Seriously, if Violence and JSB didnt like it then why come back? Its called the back button people. Also for my review: Stasia might react well or poorly to Guy and Parker but I doubt it will be poor. Love the comic bobby. Been reading since Parker was in the bushes. Hehe, awesome humor. Keep up the good work.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Brilliant! I love this comic.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
nice to see some bright colours in this strip.
February 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Now *this* is what I love about this comic…
I’m just gonna have to say…Denny’s too cool!
February 6th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
wow oklahoma must be ruff.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
See now, if Guy had just happened to walk in Parker getting punched, that would have been perfectly all right on his part, because when another person is being assaulted and battered, you have the right to go defend them. But he saw Parker attack Christian, which entirely distinguishes the situation.
If Janny had without provocation jumped on some dudes neck, Stasia would probably think she had some crazy pregnant hormones thing going on, and try to get her out of there posthaste. That’s totally different than “walking in on somebody.” Better get Guy and Parker out of the country quick if they don’t want to see the inside of a Kenyan prison. Them’s bad places, and I suspect Stasia would feel morally obligated to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but. Worse yet, think of how this is going to play in People, the National Enquirer, and all sorts of other fun places. Bernie is going to have a field day.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
I liked this page. WE see some of the difference in the lifestyles of the main characters [Stasia doesn’t know that basic fact]. Also, a little growth from Stasia, and a great few lines from Denny. Nice to know her bodyguard has a brain, in addition to that physique.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Laughable for anyone to think Guy would go to prison over this, as was already discussed on the previous page. Also extremely stupid for anyone to think Guy shouldn’t have punched Christian after Christian punched Parker, as was also discussed a ton on the previous page. Not gonna ruin this page’s comments too with more annoying crap about that. Anyone who wants to say anything like what Alex just said needs to do it in the Page 60 comments.
February 6th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Alex;
Go look at strip #59 again; Guy initially went running over to get Parker off Christian. When he saw Christian pop his best friend, instinct took over and Guy went from rushing to restrain Parker to rushing to defend her.
And on a totally unrelated note, I sure do love me some Denny.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Denny is awesome in this comic, and despite my disagreement with the rightfullness of the attack, it’s probably how I would react. If only out of amusement.
Note Guy regained his restraint instantly after punching Christian and even warned Parker against pursuing the hostilities. Denny probably would have intervened then if only to protect his two friends from legal troubles.
It’s one thing to be involved in a fist fight, it’s an entirely different ball game if you start kicking the other guy on the ground.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
“If Janny had without provocation jumped on some dudes neck, Stasia would probably think she had some crazy pregnant hormones thing going on, and try to get her out of there posthaste. That’s totally different than “walking in on somebody.” ”
Janny’s 8 months pregnant, I don’t even know her, and if I saw someone punch her, no matter what the reasons were, they better have life insurance.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Lithitemir, I totally agree. Furthermore, Bobby, I’ve said it before, but Denny really does rock.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I kinda wish I hadn’t read the huge comment argument before seeing this one. It makes it seem like the comic is just bringing everyone up to speed on the author’s view of the situation rather than advancing the story. I was very close to being one of the “crazy to attack Christian”ers until I went back and read the sequence as a whole. It really does flow well and inoffensively when taken as a continuous event rather than a hugely protracted (weeks) fight. I do have one slight suggestion that you can of course feel free to ignore. If the author/artist truly feels it’s important that Christian punched Parker (intended) rather than backhanded her (depicted), consider altering the drawing for the WOWIO version. Personally, I think the incident works out the exact same either way, but if punching was intended, go ahead and close the fist if it’s not too much trouble.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I love the fact that Stasia’s now slowly acclimating herself to Guy as someone from the real world, not Holly-weird, which is what she’s probably been used to from her past several boyfriends. Also, she’s getting out her outrage of the incident on her bodyguard, not Guy, so she’ll be calm and collected when she deals with him. Like it or not, he’s supposed to be married now, and needs to start acting like it.
One more thing, back when Guy actually punched Christian, was I the only one thinking “Bam! Headshot!”?
February 6th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Well, I guess this was to end all questions, debates, and the repetitive problems of the comments on the last comments. Good job solving that one Bobby, and sorry for the problems.
“And so last comics debate is finally put to rest. And good ridance. Seriously, if Violence and JSB didnt like it then why come back? Its called the back button people.”
Excuse me, but I never said I didn’t like this comic. In fact, I really enjoy this comic. Please don’t place me in the same grouping as Violence when it came to the last pages debates. I was in no way on his side. Seriously, I already apologized enough over it, and it’s done with. All I was saying, at the time, was that I disagreed with some of what was said.
February 6th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
“Personally, I think the incident works out the exact same either way”
Why would it be changed, then? I also obviously think it works out the exact same either way, and I think what is depicted in the comic counts as a punch.
February 7th, 2008 at 12:17 am
The artist is clearly very good at portraying punches (from the previous strip) so I’m not sure why there’s a question of whether Christian’s strike looks like one or not. His hand is completely flat and locked in place firmly. It’s not like it’s even bending from the impact. The way it’s drawn, it’s a backhand, not a punch. Again, it doesn’t have any effect, it’s just a minor detail type thing. If the artist didn’t like the way he drew it, he wouldn’t have done it that way, I’m just unsure why it’s being insisted that it’s a punch. An open palmed, backhanded strike is no more a punch than a firm slap in the face is.
February 7th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Haha, that is great, her words shoved right back at her. But it was in a good way, and lets her understand why Guy pounced. Though, now that the ignorant one is out cold, what will Stacia do?
February 7th, 2008 at 12:46 am
“An open palmed, backhanded strike is no more a punch than a firm slap in the face is.”
Uh, yes, it is. It’s a lot more of a punch than a regular slap, since the knuckles are hitting the face instead of the palm. Anyway, no more insane arguments about whether or not it was a “punch.” It was close enough to a punch in my book.
February 7th, 2008 at 1:08 am
love the big guy. he’s so damn cool.
February 7th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Shoeboxjeddy writes: the author’s view of the situation rather than advancing the story.
Stasia’s view advances the story. This act is about her testing Guy, even if this was not a test she was expecting. Guy is loyal and can take care of himself and his friends. And, in restraining Parker, he also knows right from wrong.
We also know Denny likes Parker, or at least is amused by her. And he likes Guy, from what I can tell. Add to that a boyfriend/husband/etc who can actually fight makes his job easier than having a helpless pretty boy to deal with, as well.
As for anything else, as Denny says, “It don’t matter.”
February 7th, 2008 at 2:31 am
My two cents on the ongoing “promoting violence” debate:
It’s a comic. It’s not religious doctrine on why or why not you shouldn’t smack someone in the face, whether or not they deserve it. There are certain comments where I’m sensing some oddly specific hostility towards the author, and I think that’s less decent than the fact that there’s /fictional violence/. Does it bother people in the same way when kung-fu action movies have needless fisticuff interludes?
February 7th, 2008 at 2:33 am
I just want to show my support for a comic that I really enjoy. I’ve been reading for a long time but have never written a comment. Both Bobby and Eisu do great work and I want to thank you both. Marry Me and Last Blood are two of my favorite comics.
February 7th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Correction, she’d break into song and sing the assailant into submission.
February 7th, 2008 at 5:01 am
haha gotta love that oklahoma spirit ^.^
February 7th, 2008 at 7:13 am
People it’s a comic! Comedy, Entertainment, Lighten up. How many movies or books (other comics for that matter) have you read that have had fights without any repercussions other than a black eye. Come on people its a story. Let the author and illustrator tell the story.
Thanks for the LAUGHS Bobby and Eisu.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Just wanted to say, Denny rocks.
Personally though I almost think that Denny himself was kinda testing Guy at that point. I mean seriously, it’s Denny’s job to protect Stasia, He’d want to know that whoever she’s with would be able to do so if he’s not there. And methinks Guy just passed with flying colors.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:29 am
“One more thing, back when Guy actually punched Christian, was I the only one thinking “Bam! Headshot!”?”
I was thinking: “FALCON PAAAAUNCH!!!!”
February 7th, 2008 at 8:31 am
I think pretty much what Denny said is everywhere. maybe not to such standards as a fist fight, but close. I know if my friends were in a fight, I would run in to try and help as much as a I can without joining the fight… I’m more verbal than physical.
This is the first time I posted here, but I’ve been reading since the beginning. I was gonna post on the last page, but I didn’t want to get thrashed for my views in the middle of the “war”
Keep up the magnifico work!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:45 am
I think it still comes down, to me, that it feels like forced conflict, and I still want to know where Christian’s Bodyguards are.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:48 am
I still feel that the conflict feels a might forced. I think that there were other ways to introduce more conflict…
That said. I do feel slightly better that Stacia is as stunned by Parker’s reaction as I was.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Totally, completly, agree with Denny. If one of my friends is in a fight, this Ogre is in there too, and busting heads. I can sort out who’s at fault when the dust settles…
February 7th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Where I come from, we have a saying: “You better not start the fight, but you damn well better finish it!” I believe Guy made it clear that he was coming to get Parker off of Christian. Christian did not need to backhand Parker. That was completely uncalled for. Therefore, Guy was completely within his rights to finish it. Denny knew this and let him go. Like he said to Stasia, “(My job is) to protect you and you don’t have a scratch on ya.” I also think he knew Guy could handle the situation and let him handle it.
February 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Stasia finally runs into a bit of real life. :3 Way to go Denny! You tell her! XD
Don’t get me wrong, I love Stasia, but how on EARTH can she be so naive!? Darn straight somebody hits your friend you hit back! *snort* Sort out the moral details later, and then smack your friend around if they were being stupid. (Although … Christian TOTALLY had it coming. The inherent irony and social commentary in his name alone make me laugh. Hysterically.)
Not everything fits in nice little boxes, Stasia. ^_____^ I like Denny. HE MAKES ME SO HAPPY! He’s very smart and wise. :3 And funny.
Okay, no more fan-girling from me. I have to go teach middle school choir. Must! Be! Respectable! (We’re sorry ma’am. No fangirling on school premesis.)
~Istra~
February 7th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Alex says, “If Janny had without provocation jumped on some dudes neck, Stasia would probably think she had some crazy pregnant hormones thing going on, and try to get her out of there posthaste. That’s totally different than “walking in on somebody.””
Isn’t that what Guy was trying to do until Christian backhanded Parker? Are you saying, then, that Stasia wouldn’t have leaped to beat the crap out of someone who had backhanded her sister? Would it honestly matter if Janny had “deserved it”? When you love someone, like a close friend or family member, rational thinking has little to do with violence.
Enough of this BS, though. Justified or not, right or wrong, the comic is what it is. Accept it and continue reading, or reject it and stop.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:09 am
But violence solves everything!… or is that tactical surgical strikes with appropiate firepower?
February 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Bobby, why don’t you be Parker (or Denny) and let us be Guy for a while, na’ mean? You don’t need this drama; we’ll take up for you. Y’all just go on back the house n’ chill, a’ight?
Gonna get mah troll on for summa these dim sumb%$#es wastin’ they time with sh@!talkin’ on a d@$% comment board. Please!
Seriously, it’s like a crowd of donkeys at a fence, watching a horse go through its paces. They bray and they hee-haw at every nit-picky little thing, but they’re just stupid animals. Dumb asses.
There are comics on the internet of every flavor and variety–up to and including raunchy, bigoted, and outright racist–and somebody has the temerity to hunt-and-peck a disdainful word about a friend taking up for a friend in a fight, like they caught him peeing on our Lord and Savior? Oh my nuts, people! Truly you are the laziest flamers in the history of ever, when you are wasting your God-given talents here instead of where you are really needed.
Go! I cannot allow you to remain here, where you are effectively preaching to the choir! Take the fight to the real foes, you junk-grabbing GI Jerks! Shite-talking soldiers of smacktalk! Be gone!
(You know they only come back because anywhere else the writer and the artist just ignore them; they’re just lonely kids, shouting into the void, hopin’ like hell that somebody shouts back, makes ‘em feel like they matter.)
Bobby, Eisu, I’m a big fan, got your books at Wowio, love the comic, wish it was up every day–but even if I thought the comic was total filth and rubbish, I can’t see what some of these tossers are on about. Badger back if you want, the only thing that worries me is if you take any of it to heart–or if it stalls the next installment, natch.
Okay, so, now I’d like to apologize for this rant, which was completely unbelievable and out of character, but just goes to show you can’t go bottlin’ up feelings, na?
February 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I totally love Denny.
He reminds me of a bigger, black, Oklahoma-born version of my boyfriend XD
And that’s how you know when characters are well written… you start randomly comparing them to people you know
February 7th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I just wanna know that this page wasn’t due to the argument over the fighting was it? Please tell me it was already planned way in advanced.
February 7th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Oh look. A comic page that explains exactly what I and other people have been trying to say since the last page.
February 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Oklahoma, hell.
I’m from Croatia, Europe, and I don’t know anybody with a bit of guts, that would just ignore their friend being hit…
O, and an open palm hit can hurt. A lot. Can not be compared to a slap.
hope it doesn’t double post
February 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Denny = <3 Denny ROCKS…TOTALLY!! ^^
Now, all we need to see is 1) Denny givin somebody his own version of the Falcon Punch (he’d take somebody’s HEAD off!! LOOKIT THEM ARMS!!! *pointpointpoint*), and 2) Stasia givin a falcon punch of her own (a lot less weak, but what she lacks in physical strength she makes up for in spirit ^^) This comic rules like always.
Oh, and one last thought…ROCK ON, TREYQUAN W!!!
February 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I find that hilarious,
I wouldnt kill the person, prolly just kick the person really hard and then bitch slap them o.O
February 7th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Oh lawd, I feel like I’m reading the comments from the last page.
Denny still rocks though.
February 7th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
…people are taking this way too seriously.
February 7th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
All hail the Wise bodyguard!!!!
February 7th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Amen, Bryn.
February 7th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Bobby is right when he says a backhand is as good as a punch, because it is. There are even methods in martial arts that utilize using the backside of the fist to strike. Besides, didn’t you guys see the wind up Christian had for his Backhand and the distance Parker flew? That kind of force is a punch.
And like I said before, and I’m very happy to see explained here, friendship means you don’t turn your back on a friend in a fight. As soon as Christian attacked Parker back, it was a Fight. Up till then it was just trying to do damage control on Parkers wackyness.
And Denny’s not getting involved is truely realistic. Even if the fight continued he wouldn’t step in unless ordered to by Anastacia. In which case he’d also be forced to leave Anastacia’s side and be unable to Body Guard her. Besides, it’s simple logic. You step into the middle of a fight and you’re going to get clocked. Denny is a wise man. Probably what makes him so good at his job.
February 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Wow, people arguing over logic/realism in a romantic COMEDY web comic.
Does not compute.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Actually realism does matter in any work of fiction, comedy or not. Although, to be fair, comedy does let you bend the rules more than serious drama does.
But good fiction not just tells you a good story, it also has something to say about the human condition. As the last few pages (and the debates they sparked) demonstrate, I think “Marry Me” has done it’s job of being a mirror in which we see certain parts of ourselves. That is, I think, what will make it stand out and last longer than many comics that focus only on laughs or action.
Bobby and Eisu: capital job, both of you. I’m looking forward to seeing how this all turns out.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Still love Denny (my D-Dawg!!) Glad to see him reappear again! I like how he schools Stasia… Denny looks almost like Jess’s brother on No Pink Ponies in this strip…
I haven’t posted in a while… just a small comment… Its a web-comic people, constructive criticism is one thing, knit-picking and over-analyzing is another… they are not the same thing… This is one of Bobby’s and Eisu’s ‘babies’, so don’t get bent out of shape if it seems like Bobby catches ‘attitude’ or tells it like it is… Its their comic they know what they are doing… Plus emotions can’t really be expressed very well through online threads/posts…
KEEP ON ROCKIN’ BOBBY AND EISU!
February 7th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Once you step off the plane onto sticksville, Africa, the rules of “civilization” get a little blurry.
Security profession is also different from the peace officer profession. You’re not obligated to do anything about shenanigans unless they’re directly affecting your client/client property in some way.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:04 am
woo! new page
February 8th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Denny is totally correct. right or wrong doesnt matter when your buddy is getting the crap kicked out of him by two other guys and i know because i got the scar to go with the stories
by the by if anyone were to hit someone 8 months pregnant in my presence they would be wise to check their health insurance policies first.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:36 am
No more need be said.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Ahaa, I love Denny! But I love Stasia more.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Bobby on a different note, way back in the beginning you had mentioned that you were intending to have a movie made out of the comic. Have you tried presenting it to anyone yet? Or are you waiting to have the work completed first? I know you will keep us in the loop, but I haven’t heard anything for awhile so I was just wonderin’.
Thanks again to you and Eisu for this fine piece of work.
Cheers Mate.
February 8th, 2008 at 3:54 am
Denny owns. That’s all I’ve really got to say
February 8th, 2008 at 6:41 am
WOOO! Go Denny!
Why are people saying if this and if that, who cares what ever is put on each page happened, can’t change it..who would want to..take your whiney no violence in fiction views to the whiney no violence website where you can make a difference to the poor characters in comics that are mindlessly beaten…oh woe is them..
February 8th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Works the same with my friends/family. It doesn’t matter who started the fight, they get in one, you back them up or get them out if it starts going bad.
February 8th, 2008 at 11:23 am
oh wow i love denny
February 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Haha. I love Denny.
February 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Meh I think Katie is confusing whining with debate. Personally I enjoy good debate and discussing stuff, the fact that so many want to discuss what happens in Marry Me just proves that it is engaging them at more then a base level. I talked about Parker hitting guy not because I don’t like vioelence but I disagree with the characters personal choice as if that a choice done by an actual person proving that it has connected with me on some way which is what I assume the writer would want to happen, If all the comments were just I like it and 10/0 there’d be little point in having room for the comments of others
February 8th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I think that it’s wonderful that people are reacting so strongly towards the character’s actions! The facts that Guy has showed a new, less clean-cut and perfect, side of himself adds necessary depth to his character. Major props to Bobby on that count.
Also, I love Denny thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisss much! ^_^ TeeHee. He’s like the giant muscle-y voice of reason among many stimulant driven actions and remarks.
February 8th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Great comic! I just started reading it, and now I’ve read all the previous comics I have to wait until the next update. Darn! Ohhhh, I wanna read it noooow! …
I’d so go see it!
Hope you get to make your film someday
February 8th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Oh, my dearest, you do not get out very much, do you? If my best friend got hit by a man, (or a woman for that matter) there will be blood… no one does that…
February 9th, 2008 at 1:20 am
Denny is made of intelligence, muscle, and WIN.
Clearly, so is Guy.
This comic rocks my SOCKS.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:15 am
Shoeboxjeddy said:
“If the author/artist truly feels it’s important that Christian punched Parker (intended) rather than backhanded her (depicted), consider altering the drawing for the WOWIO version.”
“The way it’s drawn, it’s a backhand, not a punch. Again, it doesn’t have any effect, it’s just a minor detail type thing.”
“punch1 Show Spelled Pronunciation[puhnch]
–noun
1. a thrusting blow, esp. with the fist.”
“Especially with the fist” does not mean exclusively with a fist. Most self-defense instructors would consider any strike that make contact with the knuckles a “punch” and that includes a backhand. Further more, if you had read my post on the last page you would know that an openhanded backhand can cause almost as much damage as a closed fisted back-fist punch. A well place backhand can knock teeth loose, knock someone unconscious (particularly if hit in the jaw or temple) break a nose, or even, in extreme cases, break the cheek bone. Anyone with half a brain would consider Christian’s backhand a punch. And as Bobby stated last page, his fist could have uncurled when he made contact (if it had been closed), which I might add is not uncommon when making flailing strikes.
Further more, you say the difference (which there isn’t really any of) between a punch and backhand doesn’t have any effect on the scene, yet you are the one who keeps bringing it up on this page. If it doesn’t change the scene or results thereof in your mind, why do you keep harping on about it?
Lastly, my apologies to Bobby since he said to keep this discussion on the last page, but everyone else seems to have ignored that and I was responding to someone on this page, so sorry.
February 9th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I’ll join the “Backhand is as good as a punch” discussion.
Anyone who says that is a fool to me. You could say it’s a strong slap, stronger than the regular one, yes. But to compare it to a punch? Give me a break. First of all your hand is flat. The fist is harder. If I clench my fist and do a straight punch to your face you could be knocked out and if it’s really strong, you’ll probably lose some teeth. Good luck knocking someone out with a backhand slap. If you still think the backhand = punch, then you are an idiot, my friend. I hope this discussion ends now.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am
I’m sorry but I have to say this: your fans have the worst case of mood swings I have ever seen. Er, it’s more like “opinion swings” but it’s close enough. It’s rather funny when you think about it:
First they love Christian, now they hate him. They wanted Parker to go after him, and now they’re mad she was hurt in the process. They were thinking Stasia was naive or stupid, and she really isn’t.
Maybe it’s easier if they waited for the pages to come out so they can read them more like a book than a daily/weekly comic. Just imo.
And on a more positive note: Thanks for letting us see the comic on your website before sending it to Woio. I love Eisu’s art and the story just sucks you in.
February 9th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Nastee is obviously banned for being a piece of shit moron.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
“Good luck knocking someone out with a backhand slap.”
Umm.. Raise your hand if you’ve knocked someone out with a backhand?
*Raises hand*
February 9th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
*raises hand too*
Oh, and Micah… have I told you this week how much you rock? ‘Cause you do.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Denny rawks. I’m too tired to say anything more right now
February 9th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
This comic is wonderful!
Keep up the great work!
….and Denny is lovely. x3
February 10th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Bobby, I’m truly sorry to mention this at all I’m simply trying to end the rather pointless debate about it. I’m stating this as a 4th Dan in TaeKwon-Do, and as such I feel I bring some technical knowedge of said subject matter into it.
fact: a punch is defined as a thrusting blow esp. with a fist.
By that definition did Christian punch Parker, no. However he did backhand her with an approximate 90 degrees of rotation, and thus the momentum and kenetic energy built by said rotation was transfered to Parker, which depending on the person can deal a signifigant amount of damage. I’ll end that aspect here.
In regards to “the fist is harder” incorrect. when striking with either a fist or a backhand the objective striking point you’ll be using are your knuckles. Thus hardness is not a factor here. Secondly the hardness of a striking point is determined by the density of the bones involved, which takes conditioning, and the tension on the muscles over those bones.
When we talk about the force of the blow. A person’s physical build plays a factor, but as Christian isn’t depicted like a professional boxer, let’s compare the difference in how a punch is executed and what Christian did.
By definition a punch is a thrusting blow, generally delivered in a straight path as it provides the highest possible transfer of energy into the target.
What Christian did was a backhand, fingers open or closed it was still a backhand. When you look at the back of your hand, it’s just not in a position to be used in a thrusting strike. Thus the best possible way to build the required momentum to deal any concussive force is by rotation. Which is what happened.
Now is a Backhand the same thing as a Punch. By definition, NO.
Can a Backhand deliver the same amount of damage as a Punch, YES.
When Bobby said that “a punch and a backhand both us the knuckles, and are basically the same thing.”
As an Instructor, I can see that statement from two angles. 1. A person who is misinformed about how the two techiques work. Or 2. An entertaining Joke.
I prefer the later of the two options. Thanks for the laugh Bobby, between Last Blood & Marry Me you’re definately in the right business.
February 10th, 2008 at 2:39 am
*raises hand*
Ah, yeah, surface area and knuckles? In the right application (like when Christian clocked Parker), it’s just as good if not better then a closed fist.
Like I’ve said, Christian was in the right to hit Parker (she made it physical, one should always have the right to defend oneself with appropriate force). However, for my money, Guy was also in the right clocking Christian under the tenets of “that’s what you do when a buddy get’s in a fight, you jump in and whoop ass.”
Stashia is a bit of an idealist, and doesn’t like violence (she has yet to realize that violence is the answer to all the worlds problems, when applied in the proper amounts). However, she can also except that some situations can drag you out of your comfort zone, and that we don’t live in an ideal world. Another reason I actually do like her, and am not just contemptuous of her for being a useless celebrity. (Also, as for her punching someone, look at how much of a beanpole she is! She’d have knuckles that would BREAK YOU!!! Those fists would hurt if she put some fire into a punch. She’d probably also break her hand, but small price to pay.)
I’m not convinced that Denny is so much an exceptionally intelligent person(he certainly doesn’t come off as an idiot mind you, and I know some pretty sharp guys that do body guard work), as much as he’s in possession of a rare, and precious, mental gift. Common Sense. Add to that some wisdom gained form living life without a silver spoon in his mouth, and we have a big intimidating guy, whose probably a living nightmare of pain in a fight, that also knows how to tell his client to “sit down and shut up” without being insulting about it. In fact, I’m thinking I’d love to see Denny in a fight. Great character.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:50 am
It is terryfing how stupid people can be. IT IS A COMIC! NOT A REAL LIFE SITUATION!
Changing the topic. The strip is great. Stasia is a bit unfair to Guy or Denny. Still Denny have some brain unlike a lot of the Big men, who lost the brain because of sterides
February 10th, 2008 at 6:58 am
A bit off-topic, but…
Bobby, how did you go about creating the WOWIO downloads? I have a friend who is trying to get something published there (major webcomic), but the site operator has not been particularly helpful so far.
And a little closer to on-topic… now that you have 61 pages, will we soon be seeing a third WOWIO download from you?
February 10th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Just wanted to applaud Bobby and Eisu’s work on this comic. It’s great, especially when I’m avoiding my studies, haha. I heart Denny–keep up the good work!
February 10th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
There’s a saying I learned in my fictional writing class in college: “People are more likely to believe in probable impossibility than possible improbability.”
Think about it and our cast of characters. We’ve got:
A singer so fed up with her love life she marries some fan in the audience because of a sign asks her to…
A father who is overbearing enough and needs to be in control of everything around him…
An old boyfriend (and I use that term loosly) of the singer who is completly callous and uncaring…
A lesbian tomboy in love with the singer and has some other issues…
And a regular old guy who is figurativly and literally caught in between them all due to being at the right place at the right time.
Never mind that we’re looking at a series of impossible (and unfortunate for some of them) events, but that it is probable despite that creates the suspension of disbelief enough for us the readers to enjoy. Apparantly the previous few episodes broke that suspension for a few.
This reminds me of this one webstrip I saw that talked about a guy posting a picture of a penguin standing on top of a sleeping polar bear with cymbols, and the getting rediculed more over the fact of that the birds and bears live on opposite poles than anything about the cymbols.
As for me? I’m just sitting back and enjoying the comic. No dramatic can last without moments of humor to break the tension, and no comedy can continue indefinatly without a chance to come back down every now and then.
February 11th, 2008 at 4:26 am
That backhand wasn’t a punch or a slap! It was FOREPLAY! Poor Christian is so misunderstood…
February 11th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
God, this panel was the greatest so far. I hurt my lungs by laughing so hard. Like, no lie.
You are so boss.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Thanks Laura, you rock as well.
@Ivan:
Thanks for clearing up the issue of how much damage a backhand vs. punch can do. I do have a question though. In American Freestyle Karate (which is, admittedly, a bastard martial art, mixing many elements and focusing on self-defense and competition, not traditional style of the art) we have a strike called the back-fist punch. Essentially you point your elbow at the attacker, and extend the fist from there, hitting with the back of the hand, and it wouldn’t be considered a “thrusting blow.” In Tae Kwan Do would you consider it a punch simply because the fist is closed? It can do more damage than a jab, although it is not as fast, and was one of the primary strikes we used in sparing as under-belts. I guess I’m just confused, because a hook is considered a punch and I would consider that a swinging motion rather than a thrusting just like a backhand is. Not trying to start a fight our argue semantics, just wondering how you view this. As a lit major and a dabbler in linguistics I’m just trying to understand how you’re defining your terms. The dictionary puts the emphasis on “thrust” not “fist” (esp. = especially, not only or exclusively) so if you are going by that then a palm-heel strike or two finger jab to the throat should be considered more of a ‘punch’ than a hook with its swinging motion. If you are focusing on the “fist” aspect of the definition, then why would a close-fisted-backhand not be considered a “punch”? It seems incongruous to me. We generally considered knuckle contact to be the defining factor.
Bobby, if you are tired of me talking about this I will gladly swap emails with Ivan (if he doesn’t mind continuing the martial arts/technique/definition game with me) so as to not clutter the comments any further, just wanted to get his opinion and understand the rational to his definition. I personally don’t think that saying a backhand is a punch makes you “1. A person who is misinformed about how the two techiques work. Or 2. An entertaining Joke.”
February 12th, 2008 at 3:38 am
ivan and micah: Thankyou for both being rational. it’s almost a relief to read a comment about the whole slap/punch that doesn’t have me itching to contribute to the ambient violence levels. Ergo, you both rock. However, I feel you’ve both missed an unfortunate but ubiquitous truth: Once folk start arguing, they pretty much stop caring about what’s actually correct, relevant or sensible, and only give a damn about being “right” themselves. To be fair, there’ve been a couple people who kept to debate, but most devolved to argument. Hence, we all get pissed off, especially Bobby, since it’s his baby, and frankly, any artist gets tetchy about folk dissing his art, particularly when it’s so well-executed.
To the aforementioned “most”: CHILL! and if you ain’t got something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Out of curiosity, exactly what part of Africa is this taking place in?
I was actually born and raised in the country of Cote d’Ivoire (can’t put in the cool o with a hat, unfortunately), which is in the region known as Coastal West Africa, so I’m somewhat curious…
February 12th, 2008 at 8:55 am
The comic has said Nairobi a million times already.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
It’s nice to see that Bobby hasn’t posted as much on this set of comics. It makes me feel like many of the stupid comments have filtered away and people are finally able to enjoy the comic as it is presented.
I’m not saying they’re all gone, just that they must not be as common. Although it is nice to see Bobby posting, I like it when he isn’t needing to post to deal with crap.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
“Never mind that we’re looking at a series of impossible (and unfortunate for some of them) events, but that it is probable despite that creates the suspension of disbelief enough for us the readers to enjoy. Apparantly the previous few episodes broke that suspension for a few.”
It’s deffinitely impossible to make any artistic endeavor that will please anyone all the time, if only because people are incredibly varied. And have vastly different points of view.
Take me for example; One of my friends works for a home for batered wives, another is a psychotherapist, my cousing worked as a receptionist in an hotel, I know two teachers and a police officer.
I’m literally surounded by people who defuse violent situations for their livelihood or else have to deal with the VERY messy aftermath. I even had to break up a few fights myself, between a rather antagonistic brother-in-law and whoever displeased him at the moment.
Of course I’ll find Denny’s mentality a bit repulsive. It litterally goes against everything I know.
Still, I’m still enjoying the comic enormously. I still love the characters, I think both Guy and Denny are awesome and very well written. I don’t have to agree with everything they do, in fact it would be boring. I think both acted very true to their characters.
I Still don’t think I deserved to be called a moron when I said I disagree with what Guy did though.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
“I Still don’t think I deserved to be called a moron when I said I disagree with what Guy did though.”
UGH. You said Guy punched Christian for a “really weak reason.” Here’s this for like the 10th time:
“Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.”
I think I already banned you at least once, but I now will definitely no longer allow any more insanely annoying comments from you that force me to repeat stupid shit. You weren’t called a moron for disagreeing with what Guy did, idiot. You were called a moron for saying that seeing your much smaller female best friend get punched in the face is a “really weak reason” for punching the guy who punched her. Anyone with a brain would agree that you’re a moron for saying that. Tons of people who post on these comments obviously have no brain in their heads, though, like you.
“Of course I’ll find Denny’s mentality a bit repulsive.”
And of course most people on these comments find your mentality of letting your female best friend get beat up to be repulsive. It’s not like you said what you’d do instead — you just said Guy shouldn’t have punched Christian, which makes no sense on any level. When presented with that perfect opportunity to punch such a horrible piece of shit asshole like Christian, why in the world would anyone turn it down and look for reasons NOT to do it? Anyone with a brain would be looking for a reason TO punch him. I see that you’re also one of those idiots who was saying that Guy would have legal trouble over this somehow, which makes no sense on any level, for many repeated reasons. A damn fight broke out, which happens constantly all the fucking time in the world, Christian threw the first punch, to the face of a girl who weighs 89 pounds, Guy punched him back, protecting her. And yeah, GUY would be the one to go to jail, what the fuck. Anyway, if anyone says anything more on this subject in any way, they’ll be banned for life.
February 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
I just want to say…
WHO CARES?
Parker got hit!
Who cares what kinda hand motion hit her she got hit!
The hand itself is a moot point!!! *eye twitch*
Guy is being who he is. A gentleman and a friend. That is what his character is all about. Being loyal to those he cares about. Parker is his best friend from growing up. I caught on as much from reading this comic. NOW, he defended her because that is instinct. To defend those we love. Basic natural instinct…
I don’t give a rat’s ass who you are. You’re going to do the same thing if its verbal or phsyical you’re going to do the same thing. THANK YOU!
Bobby, Eisu… you guys are doing one hell of a job on this comic. I’m sorry there’s so much grief on your opinions and your decisions of what to do with this comic. But please keep up the beautiful and fantastic art work and dialogue.
BTW: Denny….KICKS SO MUCH MAJOR ASS!!!!! XD
February 13th, 2008 at 6:10 am
Love it!
I like to re-read it when I can while waiting for the next one.
You guys are talented and amazing!
February 13th, 2008 at 8:36 am
omg i cant believe the debates still going on! everyone drop it for petes sake. its a comic n a damn good one at that. bobby’s made his point and at the end of the day he’s the author he knows whats going on and why! just follow the story which is gripping btw and enjoy it it’s ther for entertainment purposes and its bloody entertaining!
awesome work guys keep it up.
xxxxx
February 13th, 2008 at 8:39 am
I see that there’s a 4th dan above, so adding my first-dan experience isn’t going to help much. I only have two things to add about backhand vs straight punch:
1. Backfist and spinning backfist punches are actually _banned_ in some kickboxing rings due to the massive amount of damage you can clock up; if you don’t take a moment to line up your punch (and a lot people don’t), then a rotational haymaker– a backfist– generates _more_ damage than a punch, not less.
2. One name from boxing: Thomas Hearns, The Motor City Cobra. His Flicker Jab is delivered similarly to a backfist, converting to a straight at the last moment because of the rules of boxing. Given that he was famous for _using_ the Flicker Jab as a major weapon in his arsenal, I think we can say: yes, backfist motion delivers a lot more power than you might think.
Of course, we might simply assume that anyone who _thinks_ that backhands don’t hurt haven’t lived through being hit in multiple ways.
Great comic, by the way.
February 13th, 2008 at 11:09 am
I’ve been following this comic since it started. I have greatly enjoyed the artwork, the story, the characters. It is obvious that this comic is well-written, and that the creators communicate well with each other. All this argument about punch vs. backhand and violence not being the answer, etc.; it’s all rather pointless, isn’t it?
First off, this is a work of fiction. I just read a comic in which a man got turned into a woman by a backfired spell and another man’s head continued talking after it was severed from his body. A well-written story allows you to suspend disbelief for the sake of the plot. Marry Me does this well, and the honest truth is that there isn’t much to disbelieve. I think any man in Guy’s position would have reacted the same way to seeing his best friend get b****-slapped. And I can think of a huge number of women who would have been throwing some well-placed hits in his position as well.
And so what if it wasn’t entirely justified? Guy is a human being with very real emotions. And Christian is a choad. Frankly, I’d want to punch him just for existing. Bobby, Eisu, please don’t let narrow-minded fools keep you from producing the stellar work you’ve been doing. I love it. Keep it up!
February 13th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I have loved the last three pages, major!! Anytime I see a jerk get what’s coming to him I am happy!!
Here in Texas we actually had to close Six Flags in Arlington because a fist fight spread throughout the park.
February 13th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Bobby… you’d better specify whether it was a punch or a slap in the next comic! Or better yet it could be a revealing MAJOR plot twist later down the road because it seems like it’s the central focus of a comic page where no punches or slaps were thrown at all! *Sarcasm off*
It’s pretty obvious that when Denny said “punched Janny in the face” he was giving an example of a similar situation to explain it to Stasia. What’s more, whether it was a punch or not, it’s not remotely important to the comic whatsoever.
The fact that people are so obsessed with the whole debate either means you have some seriously dedicated fans, or a lot of fans who do absolutely nothing between reading your updates. The point of the comic was to develop Stasia as a character and make Denny look like even more of a badass.
Mission Complete!
February 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
If it were me, I would have taken a swing at Chrstian too, that guy is such a loser, I can’t beleive she was even with him in the first place.
February 14th, 2008 at 12:37 am
White fox, when u talked about the man whose, head continued talking after it was severed from his body, was that from the comic dominic deegan?
cuz it happend in that comic too..
February 14th, 2008 at 8:43 am
I really enjoy Marry Me, and I particularly love this installment. I’d probably come down on Stasia’s prim “I’m against violence” side, but the reality is that I have friends like Denny. It’s something we’ve discussed now and again, and in much the same way!
Thanks so much for sharing such an entertaining story and great art work!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Perhaps off-topic, but are you going to put up some new pages soon? Your website says “updates M-W-F” but we’re lucky to see 2 pages every month! If something’s going on that is slowing you down, it’d be nice to know. I can wait a little longer for this awesome comic. Thanks!
February 14th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
First I’d like to hand Matsura a dirty sock to eat (that question has been raised and argued waaay tooo many times for it to be brought up agean read the coments on other pages to be informed of the results of that bit of foolishness).
Then thank you Bobby for another great comic.
And Denny is very much correct…
Unfortunatly for Stasia who is brought to the realization of her on hipocrocy.
February 14th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Isn’t Marry Me one year old today? Valentines Day 2007? Happy one-yearversary, Bobby and Eisu!
February 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Wow, really? Happy anniversary. Will that mean in a couple weeks’ time, it’ll be guy’s and Stasia’s one-year anniversary. “Nah. It’s been less than a week. It just FEELS like a year.”
February 15th, 2008 at 2:46 am
Happy belated Anniversary Bobby & Eisu. Gratz on the first year.
February 15th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Started reading “Marry Me” an hour or so ago, and I absolutely love it. Parts of me hurt from all the laughing.
Keep it up! ^_^
February 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
“Just to repeat, you said that Guy had a weak reason for punching Christian and I said that anyone who thinks defending his best friend from a guy twice her size who just punched her is a weak reason is a moron. If you’re still saying that’s a weak reason, you’re one of the stupidest people in the world.”
I don´t think punching someone equals to defense (blocking/evading attacks). It is much closer to revenge what Guy does here.
“…Also extremely stupid for anyone to think Guy shouldn’t have punched Christian after Christian punched Parker, ….”
Have you heard of Mahatma Ghandi? It shows the disgusting attitude that you have to say, that everyone is stupid, who would not retort to violence. I wouldn´t have punched anyone, I would just have kept them apart. Apparently I and Mahatma Ghandi are stupid. What a sad way of thinking.
February 15th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
“It shows the disgusting attitude that you have to say, that everyone is stupid, who would not retort to violence.”
I never said that in any conceivable way. I said that it’s stupid to think Guy shouldn’t have done it. If you yourself wouldn’t do it, that makes you a horrible friend and a coward, but not stupid. And fuck you for making me repeat this for the millionth time. Banned obviously.
“I wouldn´t have punched anyone, I would just have kept them apart.”
Sometimes it’s necessary to throw punches yourself to keep people apart. You think Parker was ever going to quit on that fight??? No chance in hell obviously. Guy ended the fight. There were many different ways how that could have gone down and Guy chose the smartest way by far that resulted in the least overall violence.
February 16th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Nice comic! It was featured on Portal of Evil a day or two ago though, sorry…
February 16th, 2008 at 4:22 am
If I may so quote again, “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics.” The argument’s been done, re-done, and overdone. It’s been argued to death, and people on each side is getting to the point of near-trolling with the throwing of insults at each other
I say it’s time to move on to a new debate, such as… oh, I know! How about the conflicted fallout for Stasia? She says that she is against violence, but even she would fight back for Janny’s sake. No, I *don’t * want to put this version of ‘Han shot first’ issue back up. What I want to debate is Stasia’s eventual judgement.
My view is that she’s going to be spending plenty of hours mulling about this in bed, and the final score for or against is going to hinge on his other behavior: Is he normally violent, or is he loyal to a fault?
February 16th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Bobby I think it depends on the situation really, and the circumstances. I mean in this exact situation I believe sure you would be maybe a “horrible and a coward” if you didn’t punch the guy after he punched your friend. but I don’t think necessairly you are a horrible friend and a coward if you don’t punch someone because they hit their friend. If it were two girls it would have ended differently. Just because someone DOESN’T (doesn’t not WONT) punch someone after their bestfriend get’s punched doesn’t mean you’re a coward, it could mean you just don’t think violence is this way.
Anyway I love this comic, and I have never commented before cause I didn’t like what I read all the time, but keep up the fantastic work. This is a fantastic comic.
February 16th, 2008 at 10:41 am
you would think most women would be upset if there guy friend didnt stick up for them in a situation like that =/
dam hippies
I say kudos to the shot taken at chistian. May he hide in his room for many days and think about his actions .
February 16th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
“Bobby I think it depends on the situation really, and the circumstances.”
Obviously, as everything does. Of course we’re only talking about this exact situation.
Freelance, that quote is incredibly stupid and has never made any sense, especially nowadays, since almost everyone is on the internet, and it’s much smarter to argue on the internet than in “real life,” for a trillion obvious reasons. I’ve said this a million times.
February 16th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
And yet, despite it’s stupidity, it still holds true. It is because people can hide behind the anninimity of the net and pseudonames and annons, which allow people to troll and flame others without much reprisal. One could have a sound reasoning and explanation, yet there are those who will try to shoot it down by offering nothing but insults.
That in turn can drag others down to the flaming level of throwing insults at one another, and the issue that started is lost, and the argument lost. Take for example when you called the internet quote I made stupid. I almost replied with something equally snarky in response despite of my enjoyment of the comic, but that would have solved nothing and simply would start another pointless shouting match, which I doubt either one of us wants at this point, even if that would be proving my quoted point.
I have learned this in my years of schooling: The more you attack a person on the personal level, the more likely they’re going to stand firm and refuse to budge. Alas, the anonimity of the net makes it so easy to make those attacks personal. Of course when that happens, they are making an ad hominom, or a fallacy of logic: Instead of attacking the idea, they attack the person. Think of Al Gore and global warming. Many conservatives can’t fight the issue, so they try to bring down Gore himself, the messanger. It still doesn’t deal with the issue at hand, though, thus the fallicy.
February 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
“And yet, despite it’s stupidity, it still holds true.”
No, it doesn’t hold true at all in any way. Arguments are much more personal and stupid in person than on the internet. This should be obvious for a trillion reasons, but for some reason people continue to believe the opposite. In person you can actually see and hear someone, which makes it much easier to make things personal and find things to make fun of. On the internet you can plan out your response and stop yourself from saying stupid things or quickly replying with some personal snarky remark like you said you stopped yourself from doing. You were able to do that because you were on the internet instead of in person. In real life you would have made it more personal and mean, see? This is all very obvious to anyone with a brain and I could go on and on and on. It’s also much easier to end arguments online — you just stop typing. In person they usually result in physical fights where people get hurt and/or killed. That doesn’t happen online obviously. Anyone who says it’s more stupid to argue on the internet than in person literally has no brain in their head.
“Think of Al Gore and global warming. Many conservatives can’t fight the issue, so they try to bring down Gore himself, the messanger.”
Uh, and do they only do that on the internet???
Also, arguing in general is smart, not stupid. The world would be insanely boring and stupid if there were no arguments.
February 16th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Freelance, you’re a total fucking moron. You didn’t even type the whole quote, you insanely forgot the end of it. Apparently, the only thing your years of school taught you was that arguing is bad, but only on the internet. Not to mention that you spell every other word wrong.
And Bobby’s right.
February 16th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Bobby, you need to calm down a little. It’s great you’re defending your comic, which I love by the way, but it also makes you look a little… I wouldn’t know how to say what I was gonna say politely… But you get my point I hope. You’re wasting your time arguing with him, it’s your comic and not his. Take pride in the fact you’re doing something great while he wastes his life arguing with you.
Again, I love the comic.
February 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
“Bobby, you need to calm down a little.”
Banned obviously.
“It’s great you’re defending your comic”
I don’t think any of the discussions I’ve involved myself in on this page have had anything to do with the comic, and the most recent one was basically me defending all the asshole morons who complain about shit and I was saying there’s nothing wrong with arguing on the internet and arguing in general.
“You’re wasting your time arguing with him, it’s your comic and not his.”
Who are you talking about? Could be any of a million people. If it’s Freelance, your comment doesn’t make any sense, since nothing Freelance said had anything to do with the comic.
“Take pride in the fact you’re doing something great while he wastes his life arguing with you.”
I’ve done nothing great, and, as you pointed out in your previous sentence, I’ve also wasted my time arguing with “him,” whoever he is, and hundreds of others. I’m very lazy and depressed and I type too fast. If I typed a lot slower I’d probably spend more time writing things of importance as opposed to pointless comments like these.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Wow, is everyone still arguing about this? It’s just like Denny said. If you saw your best friend punched, what would you do? I’d, personally, punch that person. Love the comic Bobby. Keep up the good work.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Love the comic & keep up the great work!!
Any chance people can STOP
February 17th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Happy belated Anniversary & keep up the great work!
Any chance people can STOP hounding the creators so we can look forward to another brilliant page? Just asking.
February 17th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Anko: You mean “[…] Even if you win, you still lose?” I’m sorry, I didn’t think I needed to post the rest of the quote. But there you go, proving the ad hominum fallacy of attacking the person with baseless insults.
Bobby. No, they don’t attack just on the net; I went to a different point there with fallacies of logic. Which Anko was so graciously willing to exemplify.
*Shrugs.* I just wanted to put in my two sense about the spiral of debate turning into arguing with then fell down to bickering. I’ll just go back into my little spot and ignore the rest of the comments here on this page, for good or ill.
February 17th, 2008 at 1:27 am
“But there you go, proving the ad hominum fallacy of attacking the person with baseless insults.”
There was nothing baseless about her insults in any way. You called me and everyone else who argues on the internet a retard and you said a ton of stupid shit that made no sense and you spelled every other word wrong while talking about all the things you’ve learned in years of schooling, trying to sound like an expert on the subject of “anonimity” and also “anninimity” and also “annons.” How the hell is it baseless to call someone a total fucking moron who calls almost everyone else in the world retarded like you did, including me (I argue here more than anyone obviously), while proving yourself to be insanely stupid with basically everything you said? I can’t see how anyone could possibly think you’re not a total fucking moron after reading your comments on this page.
Also, it’s hilarious that you apparently don’t even know the full quote.
February 17th, 2008 at 3:47 am
I was going to point out how Freelance fucked up the end of the quote he omitted before, but got to the bottom of the page only to see that Bobby beat me to it. Does anyone else find it funny that most of the people who complain about arguing, then go and perpetuate even more arguments that are even less on topic (like Freelance did above)? I guess funny isn’t the right word. Inanely stupid is more accurate. Oh, and Anko, as always, way to go. Your comments = win.
February 17th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Lots of love from Poland to You guys for this amazing comic! Love it! It’s such a pity that I cant support Ya through WOWIO.
It’s not only an Oklahoma thing, I assure Ya. We’re all human, so if someone messes with the one we love, he messes with us. It’s only natural.
Can someone explain to me the “FALCON PUNCH” thingy? I’d pretty much like to know where it came from ^^’
Love, peace and strawberries. Keep up the good work :*
February 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
@Melanie:
White fox, when u talked about the man whose, head continued talking after it was severed from his body, was that from the comic dominic deegan?
The backfiring gender-changing spell combined with the severed head indicates that the comic is Exiern
February 17th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Wow. This is amazing. You know, I’ve seen this comic linked on Sore Thumbs page for ages, and I’ve heard friends talk about it, and my response has always been less than flattering. I mean, pop-star marries on a whim to a guy she barely knows, zany hijinks ensue? But I’ve got to hand it to you, this comic is remarkably well paced, brilliantly comedic, and I genuinely care about the characters, which is a trifecta of comicky goodness.
And now tornado warning sirens are blaring outside the window, so I’d best go. But great comic, you’ve scored a long-time reader from this.
February 17th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
*Quirks brow.* Uh-huh. Tell me, where did I actually throw any insults anywhere? Where did I actually call anybody stupid? My point I was trying to make was that instead of the issues at hand are going for the cheap shot of insults when they disagree.
As for my spelling, I know I’m not the best. Heck, I can make my spell checker weep on occasions. that STILL doesn’t make my points any less valid.
As for the analogy, one, that’s the way that I learned it; your own interpretation may differ. Two, my intention was not to call anybody retarded (but I suppose that leads to the first point that your interpretation may differ).
Actually, THIS *IS* my point. More time is being spent throwing down insults at others than solving the problem. If I wanted that, I’d be listening to Rush Limbah.
And Bobby? I really don’t know why you and I are arguing in the first place. I was trying to come to your defence against others who were attacking you and the direction your comic was going the last couple of episodes. Personally I’ve been enjoying the comic very much. And if something I said makes little to no sense, let me know, and I’ll do my best to clarify.
February 17th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
UGH, listen up: You said, and I quote, “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics.” Everyone who’s ever been on the internet has seen the following:
http://dogtoe.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg
“Even if you win, you’re still retarded” is the “official” follow up to what you quoted. There are 58,800 Google results for that line, while there are literally only FOUR results for “Even if you win, you still lose” (along with “arguing on the internet”), and the four people who said that were also morons like you who somehow didn’t remember the actual quote correctly and/or were just lying to try to make it sound like they weren’t calling someone retarded.
“And Bobby? I really don’t know why you and I are arguing in the first place.”
Because you called me and almost everyone else here RETARDED by saying that quote. You apparently possibly didn’t think you were doing that, but that is exactly what was rightfully assumed by everyone here with a brain, and you went on to defend your point and say how it’s so very stupid to ever argue on the internet, something that you’re obviously doing yourself a ton right now, arguing on the internet. I honestly don’t know how you manage to dress yourself and survive each day with a brain that stupid, seriously, and you’re one of the most annoying people ever born.
February 17th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
… I don’t like arguments. I don’t see how this is worth arguing about. It’s a comic. It’s not real. Don’t you people have anything better to do? People should grow up and give the poor writer a rest.
*sigh*
February 17th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
:3 I like Janny, are we ever gonna see the man who gave her the preggers?
:O
February 17th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
… You know, I wrote a nice long response to what you wrote, but I decided that it’s not worth it other than this bit: I haven’t seen that meme before and now I can see why you’re upset. And for that I’m sorry. Quite frankly this whole thing has gotten way out of hand, and thoughts thrown out of context. I wash my hands of this retarded (ironic, ne?) yelling match and go back to waiting for the latest comic.
February 18th, 2008 at 6:50 am
ok as much as I love a bit of fun debate about things I enjoy (i.e. Marry Me) I think this may have got a bit out of hand and slightly beyond what youd call “debate”
February 18th, 2008 at 8:54 am
uhhh so what happened to the “updates every m-w-f thing? its been what like 2 weeks now?
hope everything is ok.
February 18th, 2008 at 10:14 am
When are we gonna stop arguing and see the next comic? Because this definitely isn’t MWF updates…
February 18th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
As I’ve said a million times, “every MWF” means “every month with flowers.”
February 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Hey, when are the next ones coming out?
February 18th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Sorry I took so long to respond, but Sky, after reading the comments on the previous comics, I know a LOT of people were thinking of “Falcon Punch”, which is why I was wondering if I was the only one with a different thought on it.
Bobby & Eisu, AWESOME work. You two not only have other comics that I’ve read and try to stay current on, but quite literally I have become addicted to Marry Me. I know I’m not the only one that sees a lot of himself in Guy, and if you allowed fans to audition for the part of Guy in the eventual movie, I know I wouldn’t be the only entry. Thanks, for connecting on some level to this unlucky nerd.
February 19th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
<3
February 19th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Okay, I don’t mean to be, well, mean here, but why does it still say”New Page Every M-W-F.” I really like the comic. I used come to to see if it’s updated two or three times a week, but it never was and still is not updated that often. So, come on, really? I don’t mind the comic coming out twice a month or so, but there’s no reason for it to say we’ll get a new page three times a week when that’s the case. Could we get a realistic projection of when to check for updates then? Sure, maybe there’s something going on right now, and that will change in the future and you’ll deliver three times a week then. If that happens, you can put the notice back up, but for now, could you give us a realistic update schedule so we know when to check back?
February 19th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Haberdasher: Never ever come back. We don’t want you reading the comic.
February 19th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
@ Micah: You seem like a very rational minded individual and if Bobby is willing to disclose my email to continue the technique discusion he has my concent to do so.
@ Athene: Thanks for the compliment to Micah and myself.
@ everyone who has decided to complain about the update thing: I thought it ended about 4 months ago, but here it is again. When this site went up the M-W-F thing was there was for intended updates. Since we as individuals get this webcomic for free, why complain. But if you’re complaining please understand that Bobby, has many side projects, and Eisu has side projects as well as a full time job. It is a fact that life will get in the way of things, and knowing this I cannot hold it agaist someone if there are delays in a project like this. But seeing as all of you flock here regularly to see if there is an update, perhaps the best thing to do is just enjoy the comic, in addition to the comments we all put up here.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:26 am
I read many web comics and the majority had, have, or will have an erratic schedule. Often I find the erratic ones are better qualitythan the dailies. I’m reading and enjoy all of yours Bobby, thanks for the entertainment.
February 20th, 2008 at 5:44 am
It’s a free webcomic, done on free time. You get exactly what you pay for.
Bobby, I’ve been reading this for awhile now, huge fan of Remy’s illustrations, ignored the comments section for the most part but just want to say I love the storyline and the direction the comic is going. It doesn’t matter when the updates are, I’ll still be clicking this link everyday until the story is done
*returns to lurking realm*
February 21st, 2008 at 2:05 am
I’ve been reading this comic from the start, and I love it!
Haven’t got any problem with the schedule, I read a dozen or so comics daily and most of them don’t make their schedule (actually the best comics don’t.. maybe it’s a quality thing).
If the comic is good, I always come back to it, even if the update takes weeks or even months..
But maybe some sort of “status meter” of the next page’s finished state would be nice ( as seen on ‘the noob comic’ ) . That way readers with short attention spans would know what to expect and when..
If you like the idea but need some help scripting such a status meter contact me..
Keep up the good work! Bobby and Eisu!
(BTW: I’ve visited Malaysia last year, it was fantastic! Eisu, you are a lucky bastard for living there!)
February 21st, 2008 at 11:30 am
Hey I don’t mean to stray away from this lovely comic, because it is one of my favorites. The art and storyline is impecable, but anyway. I was just curious if anyone remembered a webcomic that had a girl with wings, and there was a boy with wings too, but she didn’t know about it till towards the end, it was a fantasy love comic and I think she had a little animal thing that turned into a human. The art was amazing and I remember that the author quit the comic, I think wings or sakura maybe was in the name. and I know it is not called I love you
February 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
*Dittos what Jay said, except that I tend to pop in and comment once in a blue moon anyway*
February 21st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I hope WOWIO will become available to non-US residents in time, because quite a few comics they have there, yours included, are plain awesome.
That said, I’m looking forward to the next strip and the ones after that.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I agree with Jay as well, having posted on this before. About the only thing I could suggest would be changing the “new page every m-w-f” to “updates occasionally.” This *might* stop the repetitive whining that seems to come up at least a dozen times in each page’s comments. It probably won’t stop it all, but at least then we can respond with “what part of ‘occasional’ didn’t you get, stupid?”
February 25th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Man, Bobby, i feel bad for you, having to go through all this crap. Well, if it means anything, just know that you have an AWESOME comic here, and i’m picky about what i read :).
February 25th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
? If nobody has yet explained the “Falcon Punch” comment, I would believe it is a reference to the character “Captain Falcon”. I could assume that it regards his role in Super Smash Bros. on the Nintendo 64, but I think he has some of his own videogames out there…
I love the comic, but it’s really surprising as to exactly how many absolute morons it’s attracted lately…
February 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Shit, wait a minute; the first part of that part of that comment was redundant and incoherent, so never mind that…
February 26th, 2008 at 6:29 am
I like how you reply to the apologetic comment about the schedule by basically telling the guy to fuck off. You’re a real cocksucker. Tell you what, I won’t watch your shit comics for updates anymore either, because you barely fucking do any. Lying piece of shit.
February 26th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
The only lie here was from you. There’s zero chance that you won’t continue to read the comic.
May 10th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Denny rules all. ‘Nuff said.